New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

[lenaitch]

I find this to be amazing - Trump is either not aware of this joint effort where America is not the head and shoulders leader of this or it’s a rare rare case of Trump America actively working with Allies on something that all three will gain equally.

Just wait 'til he finds out somebody is trying to undermine his administration.

 

[Stoker]

Good news I heard that Oriole has been saved and will be funded. Apparently she has some fans in high places.

 

[PrairieFella]

Good news I heard that Oriole has been saved and will be funded. Apparently she has some fans in high places.

If the Oriole is one of the reasons I still dont have working trucks that are 5 years behind schedule, I'm gonna cry.

 

[dapaterson]

Good news I heard that Oriole has been saved and will be funded. Apparently she has some fans in high places.

Keeping ancient things because "tradition" says that the CAF is not a serious organization.

Oriole should have been a reef decades ago.

 

[FJAG]

Keeping ancient things because "tradition" says that the CAF is not a serious organization.

Oriole should have been a reef decades ago.

I'm in favour of keeping her so long as her upkeep and maintenance is paid for by way of a pay deduction from the pay of serving admirals, commodores and captains.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I'm in favour of keeping her so long as her upkeep and maintenance is paid for by way of a pay deduction from the pay of serving admirals, commodores and captains.

I would rather replace it with a bigger sail training vessel, that can do more.

 

[FJAG]

I would rather replace it with a bigger sail training vessel, that can do more.

I appreciate the benefits that some time under sail can bring to the formation of a young naval officer cadet, but is the time and resources spent on that truly the best way that their time and the government's money ought to be spent?

If I was to do a parallel for us old arty types, should our cadet training include learning how to handle a horse drawn 18 pdr and do the manual calculations for a standard barrage? Sure, it would have some benefits in our general gunner education, but would it be the best use of our time and money?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I appreciate the benefits that some time under sail can bring to the formation of a young naval officer cadet, but is the time and resources spent on that truly the best way that their time and the government's money ought to be spent?

If I was to do a parallel for us old arty types, should our cadet training include learning how to handle a horse drawn 18 pdr and do the manual calculations for a standard barrage? Sure, it would have some benefits in our general gunner education, but would it be the best use of our time and money?

I think you get a much more rounded officer out of it. Thee are qualities that don't translate to a piece of equipment or paper.

 

[FJAG]

I think you get a much more rounded officer out of it. Thee are qualities that don't translate to a piece of equipment or paper.

But is there empirical data to that effect or is it a sailor's "my gut tells me" thing.

 

[Rainbow1910]

Good news I heard that Oriole has been saved and will be funded. Apparently she has some fans in high places.

Good news for some people lol, I'd prefer that ship turned into RCN themed matchsticks or a museum on land at best.

 

[quadrapiper]

Good news for some people lol, I'd prefer that ship turned into RCN themed matchsticks or a museum on land at best.

What's the actual annual cost?

 

[Kirkhill]

I appreciate the benefits that some time under sail can bring to the formation of a young naval officer cadet, but is the time and resources spent on that truly the best way that their time and the government's money ought to be spent?

If I was to do a parallel for us old arty types, should our cadet training include learning how to handle a horse drawn 18 pdr and do the manual calculations for a standard barrage? Sure, it would have some benefits in our general gunner education, but would it be the best use of our time and money?

I think you get a much more rounded officer out of it. Thee are qualities that don't translate to a piece of equipment or paper.

I have found myself dabbling in a lot of stuff in my life.

Over the years I was a Sea Cadet and learned to sail in a gaff rigged whaler, got my civvy qualifications on a 27 footer at Pickering and also have my Personal Craft Operating Card.

I also have found myself all at sea in a variety of powered craft of various sizes. Always grateful that someone else was driving.

One observation I have is that no matter how big the boat, or how powerful the engine, wind and waves always win. You need to learn how to work with them. Sailing gives you that understanding. In my opinion.