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Frankly I would rather spend the money there than on a High Speed Rail line to Peterborough.
Who's got a cottage in the Kawarthas?
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Frankly I would rather spend the money there than on a High Speed Rail line to Peterborough.
Who's got a cottage in the Kawarthas?
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For our under/undeveloped arctic, where we are just now figuring out what development looks like, and where it is likely to occur, I think a couple of relocatable warehouses might be handy.
As Noah points out, maybe the center of gravity will be Inuvik or Iqaluit. Maybe Cambridge Bay or Grays Bay or Resolute. Maybe Nanisivik, or the north end of the Mary River railway line or Qikiqtarjuaq, Steensby Inlet or Deception Bay, or even Churchill or Moosonee.
A federal asset that is not tied to any provincial or territorial jurisdiction, that can float to where this year's need is greatest, and overwinter in place, avoids all sorts of political complications. Maybe they even have exportable energy and water.
They could support domestic military operations, and should be loaded to do that, but they could primarily be used to support civil operations.
These don't have to be expeditionary assets at all, let alone primarily military assets.
Ownership could reside somewhere between the Coast Guard, Marine Atlantic and Federal Fleet Services.
Plus this?
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An SMR powered AMB?
Then all your stored liquids become exportable and you no longer have to worry about refuelling.
And if this is in fact a relocatable warehouse / Service Canada government building that can over-winter in the ice rather than a route clearing breaker then, to my mind, an SMR powered vessel makes more sense.
Even building out government wharves in the north with those protected berths seems like a fair investment.
I share the concern about the government depriving the fighting elements of funding. So perhaps it is best to come out of the same kitty as the airports, roads, rails (and dare I say it, pipelines).
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In 1991 I met the Star of Kodiak.
She was an old Liberty ship that was secured to the dock in Kodiak and was operating as a fish processing plant making surimi. That's where I came in. But that is immaterial.
The Star had been parked there in 1964.
She was a temporary expedient that resulted from the water front of Kodiak having been washed away by a tsunami in that year.
27 years later she was still there.
35 years further on and she is still there.
Only now she is cemented to the end of the wharf.
....
I became a big fan of the possibilities associated with building plant in ships and barges and tying it up alongside. I ran into a few vessels on the west coast, Alaska and Oregon, that were permanently moored and functioning. Hulks, kind of.
I also found out they were really popular with leasing firms. If I supplied kit on a lease to a shore plant and it got bolted down then it became a fight to reclaim it if there was a fight over payments. On the other hand, if it was in a hull.... and liable to float away on the tide....
....
So, in our under-developed north, possibly resurrecting resource industry, floatiing factories, floating storage facilities, transfer stations, power plants and utilities make a lot of sense to me.
If we guess wrong with one opportunity then we up anchor and go to the next prospect.
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In 1991 I met the Star of Kodiak.
She was an old Liberty ship that was secured to the dock in Kodiak and was operating as a fish processing plant making surimi. That's where I came in. But that is immaterial.
The Star had been parked there in 1964.
She was a temporary expedient that resulted from the water front of Kodiak having been washed away by a tsunami in that year.
27 years later she was still there.
35 years further on and she is still there.
Only now she is cemented to the end of the wharf.
....
I became a big fan of the possibilities associated with building plant in ships and barges and tying it up alongside. I ran into a few vessels on the west coast, Alaska and Oregon, that were permanently moored and functioning. Hulks, kind of.
I also found out they were really popular with leasing firms. If I supplied kit on a lease to a shore plant and it got bolted down then it became a fight to reclaim it if there was a fight over payments. On the other hand, if it was in a hull.... and liable to float away on the tide....
....
So, in our under-developed north, possibly resurrecting resource industry, floatiing factories, floating storage facilities, transfer stations, power plants and utilities make a lot of sense to me.
If we guess wrong with one opportunity then we up anchor and go to the next prospect.
Star of Kodiak: Kodiak’s Waterfront Landmark with a Wartime Past
Discover the story of the Star of Kodiak, a downtown waterfront landmark and the last Liberty Ship built during World War II—reborn as a cannery that helped Kodiak rebuild after the 1964 tsunami.
kodiak.org
The 1964 Tsunami in Valdez, Alaska (AD)
This is a remarkable film of the underwater landslide and tsunami at Valdez, Alaska, taken during the 1964 Great Alaska earthquake. It has never been seen before in its correct sequence. There is no other film that we are aware of that shows the formation of a large submarine landslide.It helps...
could they not construct a polar class tug and build your portable on a barge? You could probably build several tug/barge sets for a lot less money and use the extra for escorts. Serious questionRelated - kind of
In 1991 I met the Star of Kodiak.
She was an old Liberty ship that was secured to the dock in Kodiak and was operating as a fish processing plant making surimi. That's where I came in. But that is immaterial.
The Star had been parked there in 1964.
She was a temporary expedient that resulted from the water front of Kodiak having been washed away by a tsunami in that year.
27 years later she was still there.
35 years further on and she is still there.
Only now she is cemented to the end of the wharf.
....
I became a big fan of the possibilities associated with building plant in ships and barges and tying it up alongside. I ran into a few vessels on the west coast, Alaska and Oregon, that were permanently moored and functioning. Hulks, kind of.
I also found out they were really popular with leasing firms. If I supplied kit on a lease to a shore plant and it got bolted down then it became a fight to reclaim it if there was a fight over payments. On the other hand, if it was in a hull.... and liable to float away on the tide....
....
So, in our under-developed north, possibly resurrecting resource industry, floatiing factories, floating storage facilities, transfer stations, power plants and utilities make a lot of sense to me.
If we guess wrong with one opportunity then we up anchor and go to the next prospect.
Star of Kodiak: Kodiak’s Waterfront Landmark with a Wartime Past
Discover the story of the Star of Kodiak, a downtown waterfront landmark and the last Liberty Ship built during World War II—reborn as a cannery that helped Kodiak rebuild after the 1964 tsunami.The 1964 Tsunami in Valdez, Alaska (AD)
This is a remarkable film of the underwater landslide and tsunami at Valdez, Alaska, taken during the 1964 Great Alaska earthquake. It has never been seen before in its correct sequence. There is no other film that we are aware of that shows the formation of a large submarine landslide.It helps...
I wonder of our Chinese Friends/competitors/financiers are thinking the same thing. "What?? Your P-8 saw our ship where?"Related - kind of
In 1991 I met the Star of Kodiak.
She was an old Liberty ship that was secured to the dock in Kodiak and was operating as a fish processing plant making surimi. That's where I came in. But that is immaterial.
The Star had been parked there in 1964.
She was a temporary expedient that resulted from the water front of Kodiak having been washed away by a tsunami in that year.
27 years later she was still there.
35 years further on and she is still there.
Only now she is cemented to the end of the wharf.
....
I became a big fan of the possibilities associated with building plant in ships and barges and tying it up alongside. I ran into a few vessels on the west coast, Alaska and Oregon, that were permanently moored and functioning. Hulks, kind of.
I also found out they were really popular with leasing firms. If I supplied kit on a lease to a shore plant and it got bolted down then it became a fight to reclaim it if there was a fight over payments. On the other hand, if it was in a hull.... and liable to float away on the tide....
....
So, in our under-developed north, possibly resurrecting resource industry, floatiing factories, floating storage facilities, transfer stations, power plants and utilities make a lot of sense to me.
If we guess wrong with one opportunity then we up anchor and go to the next prospect.
Star of Kodiak: Kodiak’s Waterfront Landmark with a Wartime Past
Discover the story of the Star of Kodiak, a downtown waterfront landmark and the last Liberty Ship built during World War II—reborn as a cannery that helped Kodiak rebuild after the 1964 tsunami.The 1964 Tsunami in Valdez, Alaska (AD)
This is a remarkable film of the underwater landslide and tsunami at Valdez, Alaska, taken during the 1964 Great Alaska earthquake. It has never been seen before in its correct sequence. There is no other film that we are aware of that shows the formation of a large submarine landslide.It helps...
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Legitimate solution.
With respect to Arctic Mobile Base it depends how mobile they are intended to be. I can't see them usefully navigating the arctic with blue lights flashing and sirens blaring trying to get to a MAJAID site. If they are intended to supply emergency services then the actual movement would best be done by helicopters, Otters and Hercs.
As to launches - better off with these
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