NYC subway passenger dies after another puts him in a headlock

[mariomike]

He no longer faces criminal jeopardy. Civil could be another matter.

The "four on the floor" NYC "subway vigilante" got 8 months.

Civil trial awarded $43 million against the shooter. Not sure if he ever paid a penny of it. ( No pun intended about Danny Penny. )

 

[KevinB]

The "four on the floor" NYC "subway vigilante" got 8 months.

Civil trial awarded $43 million against the shooter. Not sure if he ever paid a penny of it. ( No pun intended about Danny Penny. )

Bernhard Goetz was only convicted of possession of an unregistered handgun - for which he got the 8 month sentence.
He was acquitted of the Murder, Attempted Murder, and Assault charges.
A good backgrounder on that - and how certain things worked out the way they did.

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The moral of the story on the Goetz case for a lot of people was ensure your target is dead. So they personally cannot come after you for Damages -- it requires family to come after you for wrongful death cases. Which as we have seen from OJ Simpson one can be found liable for, even if acquitted for the killings.

 

[mariomike]

Bernie puts in his 2 pennies in the Penny case. ( Pun intended. )

( The pun is the lowest form of humour - when you don't think of it first. )

Subway vigilante Bernie Goetz breaks his silence on Daniel Penny

On any given day in Manhattan's West Village, you can find America's most notorious modern-day vigilante walking the streets.

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The moral of the story on the Goetz case for a lot of people was ensure your target is dead. So they personally cannot come after you for Damages -- it requires family to come after you for wrongful death cases. Which as we have seen from OJ Simpson one can be found liable for, even if acquitted for the killings.

They got Goetz on the old Sullivan law. I read of old time NYC gangsters who had their suit pockets sewn shut, so no one could slip a gun in, and get them arrested.

 

[CBH99]

No that was the lesser charge.

Which to me makes zero sense - as if they where going to let him off regardless why even deliberate for 5 days and have the DA reduce the charge.

That's what confused me the other day too

 

[KevinB]

That's what confused me the other day too

Seems like someone on the jury wanted more time off work...