O'Connor in the news again

[Scoobie Newbie]

Be professional Kev.  We need your wisdom and words to resonate not by deflected.

 

[KevinB]

I just want to ask a few pointed questions.

IF there where no complaints by soldiers in previous Afghan trips - then pray tell me did those UCR's have an immaculate conception?

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

I think I will have to spell out everything to him and try not to use acronyms.

 

[GAP]

Sent to the email address posted

Your comments regarding equipment were not accurate, nor helpful. I assume you have never been in any firefight, because if you had, you would realize the speed at which a magazine is emptied.

4 magazines are for guard duty. In the field, you want and need as many as you can carry...I know, I've been there, done that and there isn't enough ammo out there when you need it.

Talk to the troops in the field...find out what works, what doesn't, and then TELL the procurement bunnies what is required, instead of letting some REMF decide for you. If you want to be recognized as a smart MND, you will listen to the troops out on the pointy end, they will not steer you wrong and will defend you to the hilt

 

[Matt_Fisher]

MP3 of the interview with Minister O'Connor on 580 CFRA
http://www.cfra.com/chum_audio/Gordon_OConnor_Mar20.mp3

"I'd be shocked if anybody needs 10 magazines.  4 magazines provides you with 80 bullets, 10 magazines provides you with 200 bullets.  All these people operate from vehicles where they carry more ammunition.  So, I can't understand, first, why this soldier would be using an unauthorized vest and secondly why he'd be carrying 10 mags."
-Minister of Defence O'Connor

 

[The_Falcon]

Don't hold your breath Kevin, I am still awaiting a reply I sent WRT to this http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/37742/post-313214.html#msg313214 O'Connor ******* and needs to be replaced ASAP.


(Edited by Moderator to remove unnecessary comment.)

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Perhaps the rate of fire of a C7 should be listed as well as sending a copy of Blackhawk Down for what happens when you plan for the best and get in the shit.

 

[GAP]

Maybe, if we draw really simple pictures, showing troops getting into vehicle, driving, stopping, (aghast!!) troops getting out of vehicle, firing weapons while maneuvering (in simple terms running/crawling behind little tinny things that shelter you from great big bullets) away from vehicle, the Minister will understand. But I think someone should point out the the other guy doesn't always play fair. When our 80 bullets are used up and his aren't, he won't stop to let me go back and get more. Maybe a memo would help :-*

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

All,
Lets attack the story and not the person's charactor. You think he's wrong, tell us why.
Calling him a @#$% does not help the situation. ....ou contraire

 

[Michael OLeary]

Locked for a time out.

Sorry folks, venting time is over.  The staff will consider the sitaution, be forewarned this thread may be purged of all direct insults.  Such comments, while understandable in the heat of the moment, have no need for retention and detract from any attempts to actually discuss the issue.

If you have further comments, please save them to a text file, review them after the thread is reopened and post them then if sober second thought upholds the emotion and opinions expressed.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Unlocked,
heed the warnings folks.

 

[KevinB]

I will sit back and make a very detached and complex reply to this later and post it to the Minister as well.

He appears to be VERY uniformed - not only the fact that the C7/C8 weapon has a 30rd mag - but also that the basicload is 10mags.

 

[mike01]

Well I would like to respond to the topic but it seems all the fun has been spoiled. Good comments though.