Pusser said:
Does your Reserve Unit have a Stores Section? If so, you can return it there and your unit Sup Tech (probably with the help of the RSS) can get it returned to the Base. Don't let them tell you they can't. Yes they can (there's a big difference between "can't" and "I don't feel like getting off my lazy ass and actually reading, understanding and following my branch motto of "Service Second to None"). Just make sure you get a receipt (you're entitled to that).
As for whether they can deduct money from your pay, yes the CF can, but Base Supply cannot. Deductions from your pay are not as simple as a Sup Tech waving a magic wand. The Chain of Command has to approve it and you have to be given a chance to answer it. You have the right object on the grounds that such a deduction is unwarranted or excessive (QR&O Chapt 38 refers). If you object, the CO cannot order you to pay a dime (it has to go to higher levels and even the CDS can only order a maximum deduction of $250 - this nonsense should stop long before it gets to him). Furthermore, Chapt 38 is pretty clear that your kit would have to be lost or destroyed AND that it was due to your negligence. If it's sitting in your house, none of those criteria apply.
My recommendation is that you read the QR&O (available here:http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/qro-orf/vol-01/doc/chapter-chapitre-038.pdf - unfortunately it's a bit convoluted) and then engage your unit Chain of Command to help you sort this out. There is no reason folks can't be reasonable about this and either cater to your schedule or wait until you have a free moment. For that matter, if you end up returning the kit at any time other than your regular parade night, you should be able to sign a pay sheet and get paid for it.
I'm a loggie and I hate other loggies on power trips pulling crap like this! It gives us all a bad name.
Wow. You ceratinly read a lot into a post that wasn't stated in it.
As for the QR&O - it's all good.
So is the scale of entitlement for Operational deployment kit. As part of the AAR and scale for those returning from Theatre of Operations, there is a requirement to return all mission specific kit "within 30 days of repatriation". Most Units have this return process built right into the post deployment AAR ... I highly suspect that is when the OP returned "most" of his deployment kit. Now, member obviously can't turn in any deployment kit that was sent back via UAB during this AAR process ... but he is fully expected to return it ASAP after receiving his UAB. After one year has lapsed, we start running hasteners ... I suspect, that in this case, it has been over one year since his return and that hasteners to return have been issued. He currently has no time off left from work - apparently, over the course of the last year, has not had time enough to get into clothing stores (or ResF Unit QM as a
very last resort - they are not authorized by reg to hold deployment kit) to make the return.
I also suspect that Supply didn't tell him that "they personally" would make an Admin deduction against his pay, but, after a year, they most certainly probably advised him, IAW regulations, that they would begin Admin action to have recovery action taken should the kit NOT get returned by date "X" - it's already long overdue. I certainly would have.
One year. Not a 1/2 hour? No leave left. Fine. But, one certainly had time off over the past year no?
For the OP: Have you advised your RQ staff of your predicament? If not, I suggest doing so forthwith so that they can contact the supporting base in question to advise them of the circumstances and so that they can seek authority to process the return of said deployment kit to their location with a further redirection of that kit by them to the supporting base.
If no go, send me a PM with your location and I'll find you a contact pers at the supporting base ... and will assist with explaining your sit.
