Pipelines, energy and natural resources

[Czech_pivo]

I reckon that if they can squeeze 1.3 mbpd through the 890,000 bpd TMX then they a similarly dimensioned pipeline engineered for 1 mbpd could also be uprated to 1.3 mbpd or better.

The game plan is to get Alberta to 8 mbpd of production. Currently setting around 4.1 to 4.4 mbpd. We were just under 4 in 2024.
TMX took us from 300,000 to 890,000 - 590,000 bpd increase or 15% on the 4 mbpd. 1.3 mbpd from 890 kbpd means 9%.

8 mbpd means 4 increases of 25%.

Or 4 new pipelines.

That's a mighty undertaking. If we can get 1.5-2.5m/day more out the door = pushing us to 6 and beyond, that should be considered a solid win.

 

[Kirkhill]

That's a mighty undertaking. If we can get 1.5-2.5m/day more out the door = pushing us to 6 and beyond, that should be considered a solid win.

Check my edited response. The money was on the table. And no taxpayer money needed.

 

[Kirkhill]

Alberta also has/had the ability to more than 800,000 bpd by rail.

They could start shipping out of Rupert in days if the Government and the locals would get out of the way.
A few months of beefing up the rail to the Bay.
Or shipping out of Saint John within days/weeks.

 

[lenaitch]

A few months of beefing up the rail to the Bay.

I'm sure the owner's of the Hudson's Bay ail line would love to hear how it could be upgraded in "a few months", along with new petroleum bulk handling and storage facilities.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Alberta also has/had the ability to more than 800,000 bpd by rail.

They could start shipping out of Rupert in days if the Government and the locals would get out of the way.
A few months of beefing up the rail to the Bay.
Or shipping out of Saint John within days/weeks.

You still need a loading facility and the space to juggle railcars, something in short supply in Rupert.

 

[daftandbarmy]

moved

 

[GK .Dundas]

I'm sure the owner's of the Hudson's Bay ail line would love to hear how it could be upgraded in "a few months", along with new petroleum bulk handling and storage facilities.

Obviously someone who's never worked in the northern infrastructure line ...or for that matter any infrastructure.

 

[childs56]

You still need a loading facility and the space to juggle railcars, something in short supply in Rupert.

Disagree Rupert has a pretty decent space for rail cars. They just have to add a a couple loading arms. They already have most of the infrastructure in the area. A little something I found out very recently. The buggers have been loading LNG and Oil for the past few years there under the radar.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Disagree Rupert has a pretty decent space for rail cars. They just have to add a a couple loading arms. They already have most of the infrastructure in the area. A little something I found out very recently. The buggers have been loading LNG and Oil for the past few years there under the radar.

I was involved in the reviews of most of the projects there, juggling the railcars and trains is a complicated task, the loop on Ridely helps a lot, but everything has to go in/out on what is basically a single line in and single line out. Here are some of the proposed projects

Key Proposed Terminal Projects & Developments

• Second Container Terminal (PRPA/DP World): A feasibility study is underway for a second container terminal on Ridley Island, which would add at least 2 million TEUs of annual capacity.
• CANXPORT Project (Metlakatla/PRPA): A near-port facility designed to increase export capacity by 400,000 to 750,000 TEUs and improve intermodal container stuffing.
• Ksi Lisisms LNG: A proposed 20 billion dollar liquefied natural gas project 100 km north of Prince Rupert, backed by the Nisga’a Nation and western partners.
• Trigon Pacific Terminals (Berth Two Beyond Carbon): Converting a bulk terminal to handle low-carbon energy exports such as LPGs, hydrogen, and ammonia.
• Wolverine Terminals: Constructing a marine fuel delivery service for cargo vessels, which will include a marine berth and rail barge system.
• South Kaien Import Logistics Park (SKILP): An Indigenous-led 56-acre project for import transloading.
  Prince Rupert Port Authority +6

Supporting Infrastructure

• CN Rail Improvements: Expanding infrastructure to support increased cargo volumes, including the Zanardi Rapids Bridge project.
• Ridley Island Expansion: Continued development for bulk and liquid storage capacity

 

[daftandbarmy]

I was involved in the reviews of most of the projects there, juggling the railcars and trains is a complicated task, the loop on Ridely helps a lot, but everything has to go in/out on what is basically a single line in and single line out. Here are some of the proposed projects

Key Proposed Terminal Projects & Developments

• Second Container Terminal (PRPA/DP World): A feasibility study is underway for a second container terminal on Ridley Island, which would add at least 2 million TEUs of annual capacity.
• CANXPORT Project (Metlakatla/PRPA): A near-port facility designed to increase export capacity by 400,000 to 750,000 TEUs and improve intermodal container stuffing.
• Ksi Lisisms LNG: A proposed 20 billion dollar liquefied natural gas project 100 km north of Prince Rupert, backed by the Nisga’a Nation and western partners.
• Trigon Pacific Terminals (Berth Two Beyond Carbon): Converting a bulk terminal to handle low-carbon energy exports such as LPGs, hydrogen, and ammonia.
• Wolverine Terminals: Constructing a marine fuel delivery service for cargo vessels, which will include a marine berth and rail barge system.
• South Kaien Import Logistics Park (SKILP): An Indigenous-led 56-acre project for import transloading.
  Prince Rupert Port Authority +6

Supporting Infrastructure

• CN Rail Improvements: Expanding infrastructure to support increased cargo volumes, including the Zanardi Rapids Bridge project.
• Ridley Island Expansion: Continued development for bulk and liquid storage capacity

The business sense differences between the 'Great Bear Rainforest' first nations crowd, and the ones from Rupert north, are stark.

 

[Czech_pivo]

The business sense differences between the 'Great Bear Rainforest' first nations crowd, and the ones from Rupert north, are stark.

It's almost like there's a NDP vs PC/Blue Liberal divide between those 2 people.....

 

[daftandbarmy]

It's almost like there's a NDP vs PC/Blue Liberal divide between those 2 people.....

I believe the international environmental movement gaslit the mid-coast first nations into thinking that banning all industrial activity was a good thing, and a virtue signaling federal government (focused on looking good at the UN level) helped, so now there are signed agreements in place (like the tanker ban and the fish farm ban) for the GBR region that are hard to remove or work around.

Now those first nations are struggling mightily. Many are depopulating as people move away for work, for example.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I believe the international environmental movement gaslit the mid-coast first nations into thinking that banning all industrial activity was a good thing, and a virtue signaling federal government (focused on looking good at the UN level) helped, so now there are signed agreements in place (like the tanker ban and the fish farm ban) for the GBR region that are hard to remove or work around.

Now those first nations are struggling mightily. Many are depopulating as people move away for work, for example.

All could be very well true - but, my next question would be, are those who are left making any indications that they want to change/alter/remove what has been put in place previously? If not, then those 'NDP' liked individuals are still at the helm of the boat and are intent on steering that boat still onto the shoals ( fitting metaphor?).

 

[daftandbarmy]

All could be very well true - but, my next question would be, are those who are left making any indications that they want to change/alter/remove what has been put in place previously? If not, then those 'NDP' liked individuals are still at the helm of the boat and are intent on steering that boat still onto the shoals ( fitting metaphor?).

My guess is they'll just suffer and hope, meanwhile:

 

[Czech_pivo]

My guess is they'll just suffer and hope, meanwhile:

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10-20yrs of watching their neighbours do well with jobs and band revenue/dividend payments will eventually change their tune. The old axiom - "money talks" is still working today and will most likely 20yrs from now.

 

[daftandbarmy]

10-20yrs of watching their neighbours do well with jobs and band revenue/dividend payments will eventually change their tune. The old axiom - "money talks" is still working today and will most likely 20yrs from now.

Yeah, that 'Carbon Credit Anchored Economy' thing didn't work out so well for them...

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[Brad Sallows]

All could be very well true - but, my next question would be, are those who are left making any indications that they want to change/alter/remove what has been put in place previously? If not, then those 'NDP' liked individuals are still at the helm of the boat and are intent on steering that boat still onto the shoals ( fitting metaphor?).

All that is necessary is for a ruling clique to approximately indefinitely control whatever passes for local government and be able to insulate itself from the negative effects. Maybe two cliques that occasionally exchange control as long as they are able to protect themselves enough to cover their "out" years. If they have an external source of funding which is politically secured (untouchable), they could continue that way for generations. The funders would of course be perpetuating the ill effects irrespective of their stated intent.

 

[Czech_pivo]

All that is necessary is for a ruling clique to approximately indefinitely control whatever passes for local government and be able to insulate itself from the negative effects. Maybe two cliques that occasionally exchange control as long as they are able to protect themselves enough to cover their "out" years. If they have an external source of funding which is politically secured (untouchable), they could continue that way for generations. The funders would of course be perpetuating the ill effects irrespective of their stated intent.

I guess they could set up their version of 'North Korea' where a family/elite governs with unbridled wealth/power and feed the masses enough lies to keep them in check.

 

[lenaitch]

I guess they could set up their version of 'North Korea' where a family/elite governs with unbridled wealth/power and feed the masses enough lies to keep them in check.

Hereditary chief system.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Skyrocketing electricity prices fuel political backlash against tech sector's AI data centers

Data centers bear part of the blame for rising bills on the PJM Interconnection electric grid that serves more than 65 million people across 13 states.

www.cnbc.com

One of the reasons for the interest in Alberta.
The new centers won't be buying from the grid.
They will be independent generators fuelled by low cost natural gas that Alberta can't seem to get rid of fast enough.

- BNN Bloomberg

Jeremy McCrea, managing director on energy research at BMO Capital Markets, joins BNN Bloomberg to discuss oil falling after IEA raises estimates for oversupply

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

I thought that you might find this interesting. Not saying that I buy into it but the studying is interesting and warrants more study and understanding.

Scientists have found an alarming environmental impact of vast data centres

The vast data centres that power artificial intelligence guzzle huge amounts of energy but they also have another alarming impact, according to new research. They are creating “heat islands,” warming the land around them by up to 16 degrees Fahrenheit, and making life hotter for more than 340...

www.ctvnews.ca

Scientists have found an alarming environmental impact of vast data centres​