Political impacts of Ukraine war

[KevinB]

Explain to me why Italy is sitting at the table during this latest WH meeting?

Italy has really given sweet p*ss all to Ukraine over the course of the war.

Italy is there simply because it gives Trump softer, prettier, toned down version of Hungary sitting at the table.

Poland should be sitting at that table, that's who's really missing from this. Once again Poland, its interests and its efforts are being ignored by the West.

Italy's Meloni is viewed like Finland's Stubb, as a Trump whisperer - and can they can generally deflate his rather bizarre actions and reactions.

But even she gets nauseated at times.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957527279392706977

 

[The Bread Guy]

Italy has really given sweet p*ss all to Ukraine over the course of the war.

#5 according to US News & World Reports …

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine

Italy is there simply because it gives Trump softer, prettier, toned down version of Hungary sitting at the table.

I’d say there’s some merit to having someone who even critics say is far from woke at the table to balance things out, given Hungary’s other axes to grind with UKR keeping them away from the table.

Poland should be sitting at that table that's who's really missing from this.

THAT would have sent quite the message for sure.

Once again Poland, its interests and its efforts are being ignored by the West.

I’m not that pessimistic yet - not to mention I suspect Poland would be MORE than happy take USSR 2.0 behind the woodshed if needed.

 

[KevinB]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957519592202596421

Macron and Merz being the loudest voices about an Article 5 type security guarantee, and the EU Commissioner pushing the fact that the abducted Ukrainian children needing to be returned.

What is interesting is that today before the meeting Germany's MoD also admitted to helping Ukraine with its long range "Flamingo" ground launched cruise missile. 3000km range, and a 1,350kg payload. Which puts Moscow, St Peterburg, and most of populated Russia under threat.

Also rumors abound about the EU and NATO leveraging POTUS on the state of our finances and how much US Debt that Europe owns.

Interesting comment from POTUS that US Military personnel may need to be positioned in Ukraine to ensure a Peacekeeping force - which was absolutely not on Putin's accepted list.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Credit where due, for sure, but I suspect FLOTUS47 is generally smarter than a LOT of the White House put together. They better hope she continues to stay onside.

She has played Trump for years, her interests are her son, then herself and she knows perfectly how to play the game. Likely has a huge amount of dirt on him, but as long as he gives her access to money and power, she is very willing to play the game to perfection. She understands her role very well. He needs her onside.

 

[RangerRay]

Explain to me why Italy is sitting at the table during this latest WH meeting?

Italy has really given sweet p*ss all to Ukraine over the course of the war.

Italy is there simply because it gives Trump softer, prettier, toned down version of Hungary sitting at the table.

Poland should be sitting at that table, that's who's really missing from this. Once again Poland, its interests and its efforts are being ignored by the West.

Meloni has actually been very strong on Ukraine, considering the alignment of her party. I dare say she’s been better than our own Trudeau, but that is a low bar…

 

[HavokFour]

Well there hasn't been a big blow up yet as of posting, it seems bringing a chunk of Europe with him this time has helped a good bit.

Zelenskyy did however set a man on fire.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Zelenskyy did however set a man on fire.