Political impacts of Ukraine war

[Brad Sallows]

Ukraine should ignore the deal.

If the US hasn't provided enough aid to swing things in Ukraine's favour across three-and-a-half years and two administrations, maybe Europe should take the hint and make a serious effort to back Ukraine sufficiently for Ukraine to win. GDP of NATO without US is roughly 5 times that of Russia.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Ukraine should ignore the deal.

If the US hasn't provided enough aid to swing things in Ukraine's favour across three-and-a-half years and two administrations, maybe Europe should take the hint and make a serious effort to back Ukraine sufficiently for Ukraine to win. GDP of NATO without US is roughly 5 times that of Russia.

What does Euro have that will allow the Ukkies to hit 500-1,500+km deep with precision?

 

[daftandbarmy]

What does Euro have that will allow the Ukkies to hit 500-1,500+km deep with precision?

A superior air force...

Just sayin'

 

[Czech_pivo]

A superior air force...

Just sayin'

They won’t give them that and neither we the US.
The Ukkies want Tomahawks so they can hit deeply and precisely Russian oil facilities. Do the Euros have something similar to provide the Ukkies in large enough numbers.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

They won’t give them that and neither we the US.
The Ukkies want Tomahawks so they can hit deeply and precisely Russian oil facilities. Do the Euros have something similar to provide the Ukkies in large enough numbers.

At the rate the Ukrainians are learning, innovating and adapting, they will be able to hit most of the important parts of Russia within 1-2 years.

 

[Czech_pivo]

At the rate the Ukrainians are learning, innovating and adapting, they will be able to hit most of the important parts of Russia within 1-2 years.

They don’t have that long.
They are running out of frontline soldiers.

 

[KevinB]

They won’t give them that and neither we the US.
The Ukkies want Tomahawks so they can hit deeply and precisely Russian oil facilities. Do the Euros have something similar to provide the Ukkies in large enough numbers.

Tomahawks

Seriously nothing is stopping any nation from sending their Tomahawks to Ukraine without American approval, sure America could get mad, but at the end of the day it’s not like the Tomahawk can’t be replicated by MBDA or other European nations.

It’s just been convenient to buy them from us due to economies of scale.

The same goes for any other piece of equipment. Sure there is a piece of paper saying you won’t - but then if America won’t protect Europe’s (and our own) interests, then who really gives a shit.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

They don’t have that long.
They are running out of frontline soldiers.

Russia is not doing that well either and it's running out of AFV's as well.