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Politics in 2013

Public service pay scales are also openly available.

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/coll_agre/rates-taux-eng.asp


Of course, when a department hires a contractor to work as an ADM, that information is not available.
 
So if all the grunts have their pay rates on the internet, than what is the controversy?  Execs?
 
Infanteer said:
So if all the grunts have their pay rates on the internet, than what is the controversy?  Execs?


Even the EXs are public - up to $198,000/year. The real targets are the executives in the "crowns:" CBC, Canada Post and so on.

But, as I have mentioned before, campaigning against the civil service is always useful for Conservative politicians. No matter how untrue it may be, the Conservative base thinks believes that the Canadian civil service is composed of overpaid, lazy, underachieving French Canadians. They have an even lower opinion of those who work for the "crowns."

Anecdote: I was talking, a couple of years ago, with an acquaintance - a very well educated, successful "new Canadian" who was (still is) an active Conservative and a parent. Our discussion turned to education and I asked if he had considered the French immersion programme. He was shocked: "Do I want to raise my kids to be civil servants?" he asked. "I want them to be productive and useful and to make a real contribution to their family, their community and even the world. They will need a real education and real jobs." He is not untypical.

 
E.R. Campbell said:
But, see this contrary opinion by the National Post's Terence Corcoran in which he says that the only result of so-called sunshine laws (public disclosures of salaries and expenses) "was outrageous breaches of personal privacy that have produced no benefit whatsoever."

There IS a right to privacy. How much of that right those who aspire to public service must surrender is open to debate. Sunshine laws are popular so Mr Leger is, probably, correct, in his analysis but how far should we go?

Public service pay scales are also openly available.

Public service base salaries at the municipal level are also openly available.

But, what makes the Sunshine List interesting, at least in Emergency Services, is that it shows how much some at HQ - who do not work Operations - really make.

The Sun published a story last November reporting, "The Toronto Sun can reveal some Toronto EMS senior management staff have claimed an almost unimaginable amount of overtime in the past 12 months alone — all paid in cash rather than taken as time in lieu."  "The list goes on and on because there is no EMS overtime cap."



 
Cabinet shuffles, real or imagined, are always great fodder for speculation and here is a bit, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the National Post:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/06/10/john-ivison-cabinet-shuffle-could-be-what-saves-harpers-government-from-the-noose/
Cabinet shuffle could be what saves Harper’s government from the noose

John Ivison

13/06/10

Cabinet shuffles rarely save governments from the noose but the one currently being contemplated by the Prime Minister may be the exception.

Senior figures in the Conservative movement are warning that unless Stephen Harper moves his House Leader, Peter Van Loan, and the Government Whip, Gordon O’Connor, more MPs will follow the unlikely rebel, Brent Rathgeber, out of the caucus door.

The changes must be accompanied by reforms to the way the Prime Minister’s Office treats backbenchers, according to one former Cabinet minister. And the Prime Minister needs to draw into his inner circle people who are prepared to tell him things he may not want to hear.

The departure of Nigel Wright removed the last person sitting around the PMO morning meeting table who remembers the first Quebec referendum, the Cold War and disco.

People who were involved in building the present-day Conservative Party say they have watched in horror as that coalition threatens to unravel.

This is not a battle over ideology or policy. Rather, according to both current and former members of caucus, the backbench is a cauldron of seething resentment because of sheer, bloody mismanagement – “a growing, dictatorial ‘PMO knows best’ attitude.”

Mr. Rathgeber has always been his own man and has previously butted heads with “the centre.” But, according to his own version of events, on this occasion he tried to play nice by compromising on the salary disclosure benchmark level in his private members’ bill, which proposed to make public a “sunshine list” of top earners in the public service.

His departure from caucus was prompted by the Conservative-dominated Ethics Committee’s decision to unilaterally raise that disclosure level once more, to a level that would have captured all but a few Crown corporation heads.

Party veterans say this crosses a line. Very few private members’ bills become votable, far less receive Royal Asset. Between 2004-11, only 1.3% made it into law – between 1945-1993, just 127 privately sponsored bills became law, and just 31 of those did not deal with name changes to constituencies.

Eight private bills have passed into law since the Conservatives won their majority two years ago, including one to increase public awareness about epilepsy by Liberal Geoff Regan, which suggests the government is aware of their capacity as a safety valve for members.

But they have an importance beyond their success rate because they help push the public agenda – they sometimes find their way into subsequent government legislation; they can encourage government departments to adjust their behaviour; and, they offer the oxygen of publicity for interest groups.

As such they are guarded jealously by MPs. It is considered “unparliamentary” for the House, far less the MP’s own party to amend legislation without the approval of the sponsoring MP.

Members can be told before caucus that their party doesn’t support the proposed legislation and, if they persist, that the leadership will urge its backbenchers to vote against it. But a number of Conservative MPs say they are mortified at the unprecedented step of malleable Conservatives in the Ethics Committee amending Mr. Rathgeber’s bill against his wishes.

The finger of blame has been pointed squarely at Mr. O’Connor, a former brigadier-general used to his orders being obeyed without question, and Mr. Van Loan, described by one Conservative as “the most reviled member of caucus.” But they are merely the enablers of a command and control structure where the word is written by the Great Helmsman and interpreted by the cadre of youthful Blue Guards in his office.

For Conservatives who joined a party founded on “the supremacy of democratic parliamentary institutions,” recent developments have proven shocking.

There is a legitimate sense of disillusionment – particularly since a good number of backbenchers feel the party’s recent travails such as the Senate scandal have common roots with the Rathgeber defection.

The caucus is not feeling the love from the Prime Minister, who now seems to believe a good number of his MPs are on his enemies list because they won’t give him their unconditional support in all circumstances.

Mr. Harper has indicated he will shuffle his Cabinet this summer. If he moves his Chief Whip and House Leader, it will be grasped as an olive branch by the backbench, most of whom appear to have no desire to either leave caucus or replace the Prime Minister.

But if he leaves Messrs. O’Connor and Van Loan in situ, and for good measure replaces his popular Finance Minister, Jim Flaherty, who has indicated he would like to stay in his job until the next election, it suggests things may not end happily for the Conservatives.

Mr. Harper doesn’t like being pushed into anything but such a course of action would send the message that if the party is going to go over the cliff, he intends to be in the driving seat, Thelma and Louise-style.

National Post


Is it only me, or do others detect a whiff of despair in John Ivison's plea for something, anything to "change the channel?"

 
I think it's real, myself and others who supported them are quite disgusted with the ommibill approach and the control of messaging is getting out of hand and is costing time and money.
 
E.R. Campbell said:
See, also, this interesting article about the urban core/suburban split in Toronto.

I believe it has been that way for a long time. The Islands and Allen Expressway versus Forest Hills are a couple of examples. If I recall correctly, we used to say City / Boroughs rather than urban / suburban.

For example, whereas now we only have one mayor, prior to 1998 we had six at a time. Even though the geographic area has not changed since 1954.

But, we only had one Metro Chairman. It seemed to me that he had the real power. The nickname of the first was "Big Daddy". The department I belonged to answered only to the Metro Chairman. Not the mayors. The people in the boroughs got the very same service from "Metro Police" and "Metro Ambulance" as the ones downtown. However, there were six fire departments. 

Prior to 1987, the Metro Chairman was not required to be an elected member of Metro Council. 
 
Gordon O'Connor was, in my opinion, always a strange choice for whip. The whip is part drill sergeant major, part nursemaid, part political tactician and part father confessor. His (or her) job is to keep the back benches both (reasonably) happy and in line. I saw O'Connor as a capable minister ~ not especially quick on his feet but stable and reliable. I think he did a pretty good job in Defence but the PM, evidently, disagreed because he was "demoted" or, at best, moved sideways to Revenue. Some might argue that Chief Government Whip represents a promotion but I still find the man ill suited for that particular job. Mr O'Connor is 74 and I'm guessing that he can be shuffled out on the basis that he will (likely) not seek re-election.

Van Loan is a more difficult problem for the PM. He's one of the old time Progressive Conservatives who fought hard for the new, united CPC. He's a skilled lawyer and, by all accounts I have heard, was a competent minister. I think he needs to be kept in cabinet and not, obviously, demoted. Like the whip, the house leader should be both a bit of a dictator and a bit of a favourite uncle. His (or her) goal is to steer the government's legislative programme through the HoC and he must have a big stick but he should prefer to use the carrot as much as possible ... something about catching more flies with honey than with vinegar. But, assuming Vic Toews can be rewarded with a move to suitable senior bench as a judge then Van Loan migt be a good fit in Justice or in Defence if the PM wants to move MacKay to Justice.

Personally I don't have a huge problem with omnibus bills provided they are properly crafted - i.e. every part is, clearly, tied to the budget, for example.

I also think that there needs to be some unity on the messaging front but probably not as much as this PMO wants to exert. Members must, in my opinion, stand with the party on all key issues identified in the election platform. If you cannot support the platform then you ought not to have run on it.Equally, when your party leader stakes out a position, as Prime Minister Harper has done on abortion then I think MPs who choose to stay in the caucus must represent that position back to their constituents and support their leader. But there are many issues, it seems to me, for which parliamentary "freedom" is still or ought to be still available to all MPs.

 
In the "be careful what you wish for" category:

    1. The NDP turns the tables on M. Trudeau and, after defeating his motion to make MP's expensive "transparent," introduces a motion, which "asked for an investigation
        into the potential use of MPs’ travel allowances to attend paid speaking engagements." NDP House leader Nathan Cullen "confirmed the motion, which passed with
        unanimous consent, was aimed specifically at Mr. Trudeau;" and

    2. Liberal warhorse Judy Sgro was reminded that Liberals are not immune from scrutiny. While her problem is a bit dated she didn't like it publicized.

 
Not to mention that when Judy Sgro was Minister of Immigration, IIRC, Romanian "ballerinas" were quickly given entry to Canada.

Yes, this is a tangent. My apologies.
 
Ommibills force the quick writing of bills with little input or forethought. The Act I will have to enforce was barely dry when thrown into the ommibill and many issues are still to be resolved. It's a poor way to do law and creates future problems which could have been avoided. Governments will always claim a crisis was the reason to do such, but there is always a crisis, do want to be in perpetual crisis management or would you rather actually plan for something?
 
E.R. Campbell said:
In the "be careful what you wish for" category:

    1. The NDP turns the tables on M. Trudeau and, after defeating his motion to make MP's expensive "transparent," introduces a motion, which "asked for an investigation
        into the potential use of MPs’ travel allowances to attend paid speaking engagements." NDP House leader Nathan Cullen "confirmed the motion, which passed with
        unanimous consent, was aimed specifically at Mr. Trudeau;" and

    2. Liberal warhorse Judy Sgro was reminded that Liberals are not immune from scrutiny. While her problem is a bit dated she didn't like it publicized.

And now it seems that the NDP is left trying to explain why they wouldn't support what even the Conservatives were smart enough to agree on.  If you think about it Trudeau or someone advising him just pulled a fast one.  The CPC could have been against it but given where they are right now it just would have added fuel to the fire.  Luckily they didn't fall for it.  And for Mulcair who is still likely regarded as the Third party, didn't want the NDPs thunder stolen but voting against it has now removed any legitimate indignation the NDP has or had, but Trudeau is now seen as the the guy championing this cause.  And seeing as how the CPC is levelling their own accusations at Mulcair, he's not looking to good.

Trudeau has just positioned himself as the face fighting the CPC and the whole transparency issue.  And Mulcair essentially handed it to him.
 
Crantor said:
And now it seems that the NDP is left trying to explain why they wouldn't support what even the Conservatives were smart enough to agree on.  If you think about it Trudeau or someone advising him just pulled a fast one.  The CPC could have been against it but given where they are right now it just would have added fuel to the fire.  Luckily they didn't fall for it.  And for Mulcair who is still likely regarded as the Third party, didn't want the NDPs thunder stolen but voting against it has now removed any legitimate indignation the NDP has or had, but Trudeau is now seen as the the guy championing this cause.  And seeing as how the CPC is levelling their own accusations at Mulcair, he's not looking to good.

Trudeau has just positioned himself as the face fighting the CPC and the whole transparency issue.  And Mulcair essentially handed it to him.


Here are Messers Cullen and Trudeau on their respective motions. I'm still thinking it's "advantage Cullen," even though we are nowhere near match point.

 
The federal ethics commissioner has suspended her examination of the $90,000 cheque written to Mike Duffy by the prime minister's top aide to cover illegal expenses claimed by the senator, because the RCMP has opened a criminal investigation.

Mary Dawson said Thursday that under law, since Stephen Harper's former chief of staff, Nigel Wright, is also being investigated for the same matter by the RCMP to determine whether he has committed an offence under an Act of Parliament, she must cease her examination into whether Wright was in a conflict of interest when he wrote the cheque.

The RCMP will investigate why Wright gave a personal cheque to Duffy so he could repay money owed to the Senate for improperly-claimed living expenses. Wright has since resigned from his post with the PM and Duffy has resigned from the Conservative caucus, and is now an Independent senator ....
CBC.ca, 13 Jun 13

The RCMP says there's enough evidence to start a criminal investigation into the $90,000 the prime minister's chief of staff gave to Sen. Mike Duffy to cover bogus housing claims.

Federal Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson confirmed the criminal probe in a statement announcing she was suspending her own investigation under the Conflict of Interest Act into Nigel Wright's "gift."

The federal watchdog delayed her probe "when it was confirmed to her earlier today (Thursday) that Mr. Wright is also being investigated in relation to the same subject matter to determine whether he has committed an offence under an Act of Parliament," said a spokeswoman for Dawson.

Meanwhile, two Senate scofflaws have less than a month to return more than $280,000 in bogus living allowances or face having their $135,000 salaries docked.

The Senate's committee of internal economy is ignoring pleas of innocence and legal action to recoup money it says was wrongfully claimed by senators Mac Harb, a Liberal appointee, and Patrick Brazeau ....
Sun Media, 13 Jun 13
 
Maybe I'm missing something. Since grade school we were taught right from wrong. You never take something that don't belong to you. Then life got more complex and we learned about fraud and operating under false pretences. 
So to doctor your claims for money you are not entitled to. Or is there so much available the perks or entitlements become expected.
But anyone who has this much life experience and were bestowed a place of honour should not sell their integrity.
Real sad. They knew........and if this was the common man he would be fired on the spot and face jail time.
No, we will dock their pay, they broke a trust, you should be held to a higher standard.
No just show some respect.  Resign or else. Dive on your sword. No wonder we are going down this sad path? Look at the appointed leaders.
 
Colin P said:
Always felt the NDP missed the long haul benefits, when they took Mulicur over Cullen

How do you feel now that he had his meltdown on the hill today lol
 
Crantor said:
How do you feel now that he had his meltdown on the hill today lol

Cullen has a good rep in his area and could have knitted both the West and Central Canada to the NDP flag far more than Mulcair can.
 
I think the reason we have seen so many examples of corruption these days is there wasn't a sufficient reaction to previous scandals.

If people had been doing the perp walk for events like Shawinigate, the Billion Dollar Boondoggle, ADSCAM, and so on, then other people would be thinking twice about doing the same things when claiming expenses, giving out contracts or pulling stunts like the gas plant cancellations in Ontario.

Of course it isn't too late to rectify the problem.....
 
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