Infanteer said:To bad that, out of all those military members, barely any of them vote in that riding. Military members vote in the riding that is on their MPRR which is generally where they enrolled from.
George Wallace said:Some do. Some don't. Their families, however, do not have that capability. Their spouses, and voting age children, perhaps a Reservist or two in that lot, would have some inclination as to who he was from talk within the family circle. There are also a large number of Reservists and civilian DND employees, not to mention Retired Service Members, still residing in ORLEANS.
Ford nation stands by its man. No. Matter. What.
JEFFREY SIMPSON
The Globe and Mail
Published Wednesday, Nov. 20 2013
That Toronto Mayor Rob Ford lacks dignity, self-control, shame or any sense of public responsibility, and that he has brought international mockery to his city, to say nothing of himself, is less to be remarked upon – for all this is self-evident – than that perhaps a third of the electorate stands resolutely behind him.
What can it mean that someone who has so demeaned his office and his city, someone who has confessed to breaking the law, still commands such support? Put another way, what would it take for Mr. Ford to shake the faith of his core supporters?
That they stick with him really says more about them and their way of viewing the world of government than it does about him.
There is now in Canada, according to all sorts of polls, about 30 per cent of the electorate that is hard-core Conservative/conservative. For them, public policy is almost exclusively about paying lower and lower taxes, while, of course, demanding the same level of services. As long as their leaders deliver on that promise, or keep talking about delivering even if they don’t, this is the prism through which all is judged.
You can see the contradictions everywhere in the Conservative/conservative world. Conservatives who support Mr. Ford are the “tough on crime” voters of the kind also targeted by Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservatives. You would logically assume therefore that a mayor who confesses to having broken laws – smoking crack cocaine, for example – would be just the sort of public person the Conservatives/conservatives would revile. Apparently not.
The kind of people who decry high taxes should be furiously against a subway to Scarborough that will cost much more than the light-rail option many urban planners say is more appropriate and cheaper for a sprawling suburban area. But instead, Mr. Ford pitches the subway, and gets $660-million from his Conservative friends in Ottawa for an option that represents a squandering of public money, given the light-rail alternative.
Conservatives, at their philosophical best, have always placed a high premium on personal responsibility. They believe, much less than liberals or socialists, in the social factors that influence personal behaviour. For Conservatives, individuals are responsible for their behaviour, not their upbringing, surroundings or social conditions.
In Rob Ford, here is a man who revels in calling himself a conservative, yet has displayed a flagrant and persistent disregard for personal responsibility, as well as having failed to act in a responsible way as mayor. Rather than being condemned by supporters for this betrayal of the conservative creed based on self-control and personal responsibility, he has been elevated to some weird kind of cult figure, deserving of sympathy and support.
The Conservative/conservative core, as we see in the federal government, is resistant to evidence if it conflicts with ideological nostrums. As in Fordworld, federal ministers look facts in the face and deny them, prefer to lecture rather than reason, to posture as the friend of the “people” against undefined but dangerous “elites,” and live in an intellectually self-contained world where curiosity is banished and slogans take the place of deliberation.
Conservatives of years ago saw society as organic, all being part of the whole, and tried to fashion policies that brought people together, whereas the new Conservatives/conservatives, à la Mr. Ford, see society as inherently divided between a mythical sense of the “people” and their foes. And for this attitude, those who fall on their side of this divide reward leaders with loyalty that cannot be shaken.
Toronto has tried for decades to become a “world-class city,” a phrase shopworn from overuse by those hoping that it might some day become just that. Cities that are truly “world class” never have to use the phrase; only those that are not employ it. Just as Somerset Maugham once described himself as sitting in the first row of the world’s second-class writers, Toronto fears that is where it sits among cities, while desperately wishing it was not so.
Now along comes Mayor Ford to wreck even that ambition, a subject of ridicule and parody from Germany and Britain to Mexico and the United States, giving new definition to the old nickname for Toronto within Canada – Hogtown – without his supporters apparently caring a fig.
pbi said:Can lefty people engage in the same mental gymnastics? Yes, probably. IMHO it has very little do with where you hang your hat on the political spectrum and lots to do with our ability to shut out reality as it suits us.
Crantor said:...Politics these days is getting incredibly (and depressingly) partisan.
pbi said:The reign of David Miller can probably be fingered as one of the key ingredients in the boiling stew that spewed out Ford and his folks: Canadians usually vote "against" somebody or some party rather than "for" it. Ford, for all his evident faults,is apparently a pretty effective populist, and these folks championed him against all that they thought Miller and company stood for.
To me, the most interesting Nigel West revelation from the RCMP docs (downloadable here - 80 pages, but well worth the read if you have the time) is this (from page 18) - with highlights mine:Infanteer said:Fascinating. It appears Mr Wright was trying to smooth waters and ended up being shark chum. The real cast of antagonists in this appear to be Senators and a sense of entitlement.
None of the RCMP Information document has been proven in court, but that bit in yellow is a good piece of ammo for Wright's defence counsel - certainly makes some politicians' sense of entitlement look a bit different..... Mr. Wright explained that he is financially comfortable, having been successful in the private sector prior to agreeing to work within the PMO. Since taking on the position within the PMO he has not filed expense claims for anything, including meals, flights, hotels or legal fees. He estimates he (sic.) out of pocket tens of thousands of dollars, but it is his global view and contribution to public policy that taxpayers not bear the cost of his position if he can legitimately afford to fund it himself. Because of his person beliefs and financial ability, he took the personal decision at that time to pay back the $90,000. He did not view it as something out of the norm for him to do, and was part of his being a good person ....
milnews.ca said:To me, the most interesting Nigel West revelation from the RCMP docs (downloadable here - 80 pages, but well worth the read if you have the time) is this (from page 18) - with highlights mine:None of the RCMP Information document has been proven in court, but that bit in yellow is a good piece of ammo for Wright's defence counsel - certainly makes some politicians' sense of entitlement look a bit different.
Wright tells a PMO colleague he is “beyond furious” to learn Duffy has also been claiming for meals and incidentals. Wright, Horton notes in the documents, “was incensed that Senator Duffy was getting paid for meals that he ate in his own house in Ottawa.”
milnews.ca said:To me, the most interesting Nigel West revelation from the RCMP docs (downloadable here - 80 pages, but well worth the read if you have the time) is this (from page 18) - with highlights mine:None of the RCMP Information document has been proven in court, but that bit in yellow is a good piece of ammo for Wright's defence counsel - certainly makes some politicians' sense of entitlement look a bit different.
Yup, that's pretty entitled alright.George Wallace said:No kidding! This is really despicable to read ( LINK )
Wright tells a PMO colleague he is “beyond furious” to learn Duffy has also been claiming for meals and incidentals. Wright, Horton notes in the documents, “was incensed that Senator Duffy was getting paid for meals that he ate in his own house in Ottawa.”
At the very least, if found guilty of the letter of the law, I see a lot of mitigation for sentencing compared to Duffer.E.R. Campbell said:I doubt Mr. Wright will ever need defence counsel because I suspect that no crown prosecutor believes that he can, or should even try, to win in court. Mr Wright is, I think, guilty of some crime; I think giving a favour to a legislator, which Sen Duffy was and still is, and expecting something in return (Duffy's cooperation in "changing the channel") is against the law. But I also think the crown has to prove intent or a "guilty mind" and I suspect Mr. Wright had neither.
Infanteer said:Fascinating. It appears Mr Wright was trying to smooth waters and ended up being shark chum. The real cast of antagonists in this appear to be Senators and a sense of entitlement.
pbi said:We may yet find out just what it was Wright did or did not do, but for sure the exposure of a sickening sense of pig-trough entitlement (yet again); an exclusivist view of how the law is applied to public figures; and a shallow "legalistic" interpretation of the letter of regulations rather than conforming to their ethical or moral intent, remind me of that old saw: "Power corrupts...absolute power corrupts absolutely"
The older I get, the more I believe that old saying. IMHO our inability (unwillingness, inertia...whatever) to really deal with this deep seated problem in the Canadian political system prevents us from really enjoying democracy the way it could be enjoyed, and I'm quite sure explains the miserable voter turnout.
Nigel Wright a victim of Mike Duffy ‘bait and switch’ ploy
Andrew Coyne
22/11/13
In the beginning, it was all about retrieving a few thousand dollars in improperly claimed expenses from a single errant senator. That’s what Nigel Wright* told the RCMP, and the emails police have recovered to date bear him out.
As early as February 7, as the simmering issue of Senator Mike Duffy’s housing allowance began to boil, Wright was telling colleagues there were only two plausible “ways out”: “(i) it was wrong and he has to he disciplined and/or repay, or (ii) there was ambiguity so it will be clarified and he will not claim the amount going forward.”
You could make a case for the latter, if you relied on the most literal reading of the rules regarding eligibility for housing allowances and not their plain sense. Duffy himself attempted to make that case to Wright in the days that followed. And, indeed, Wright agreed no laws were broken.
Yet, whether out of concern for political optics or, as Wright maintained to police, simple ethics, Wright insisted he repay. Senator David Tkachuk, then the chair of the Senate standing committee on internal economy, agreed. And at several points they believed they had Duffy’s grudging assent to do so.
Yet whenever it seemed as if the matter had been resolved, a condition would get attached. At first Duffy was concerned not to admit wrongdoing: so assurances were given that that would not be required. Then Duffy objected that if he conceded that his primary residence was in fact in Ottawa, and not in P.E.I., he would be ineligible to sit as a senator. So further guarantees were offered on that score.
Then the Conservative and Liberal Senate leaders, Marjory LeBreton and James Cowan, issued a letter jointly decreeing that senators found to have improperly claimed expenses would have to pay them back. Duffy, perhaps sensing the trouble he was in, started to dig in his heels.
His lawyer sent an email exploring several further conditions: removal from the audit, reimbursement of his legal fees, some mutually agreeable “media lines” to smooth it all over. Finally, on Feb. 19, after some further back and forth, Duffy laid it on the line: not only would he not pay, he could not pay. He didn’t have the money.
For whatever reason, the government’s resistance began to crumble. Sen. Tkachuk suggested an arrangement whereby the audit could be called off if Duffy admitted he had made a “mistake.” Wright advised Duffy, according to the RCMP, that he would “look into a source of funds.” That turned out to be the Conservative Party of Canada, whose chairman, Senator Irving Gerstein, had earlier offered his assistance.
But Duffy continued to raise the ante. On Feb. 21, his lawyer sent Wright an email setting five conditions on his co-operation. They included, in addition to the previous demands to stop the audit and reimburse him for his legal fees, demands that the Senate committee confirm his expenses were “fully in order” and would not be further reviewed; and that “as his apparent ineligibility for the housing allowance stems from his time on the road on behalf of the party,” an arrangement would be made “to keep him whole on the repayment.”
Duffy was attempting to expand the issue of his housing expenses into his expenses generally — demanding not only to be reimbursed, but to be exonerated, using the party’s own complicity in them as the whip. Wright would not agree to the whole package. But by the next day the party had agreed, not only to stop the audit, but to reimburse the senator for all of his improperly claimed expenses.
The party having taken the bait, Duffy now gave them the switch. The full amount of his expenses, it soon emerged, was not the $32,000 previously reported, but roughly $90,000, much of it in improperly claimed per diems. The party’s readiness to pay evaporated in the face of this: Wright, perhaps feeling he had run out of options, took the fateful decision to write the cheque himself.
But by now events had moved beyond his control. There were too many moving parts. Desperate attempts were made to halt the audit, or at any rate to persuade the auditors to take no position on the question of Duffy’s residency, on the basis that, having repaid the money, the question was moot.
But the audit, as it turned out, could not be stopped. And while the auditors did, indeed, take no position on Duffy’s residency (largely because they lacked the necessary evidence to form a judgment, Duffy having refused to co-operate with them), the Senate committee’s report proved no easier to corral. A draft prepared by Senate staff was critical of Duffy, on a “plain sense of the rules” basis. Only with some considerable browbeating by PMO officials were these remarks excised from the final report.
There will be ample chances to condemn. I attempt here only to understand: how an effort to get one senator to repay his expenses could have grown into such a complex apparatus of deceit; how powerful and respected public officials ended up conspiring to pay a sitting legislator for his silence, while covering up the record of his misdeeds; how Wright became entangled in Duffy’s web.
Postmedia News
* I remind readers that I am in a conflict: I am an old though not particularly close friend of Nigel Wright, with whom I attended university. The last time we corresponded was last year, when he sent a note of condolence on my father’s death.