Politics in 2018

[Rifleman62]

It will probably be: YOU, and YOU alone will take full responsibility, to one and all, for this cock-up and and leave me and Gerald (Butts) completely out of it.

 

[Good2Golf]

It will probably be: YOU, and YOU alone will take full responsibility, to one and all, for this cock-up and and leave me and Gerald (Butts) completely out of it.

...don’t forget Katie Telfer.

Sarai will likely have one of the PMO’s junior minion Starbucks fetchers swing by Sarai’s Office to drop off the “not-to-be-modified-in-any-way” text for him to read.  I bet he even is ordered to squeeze out a tear or two of regret and deep personal shame. op:

Regards
G2G

 

[George Wallace]

MARCH IN THE SACRIFICIAL BACKBENCHER!

 

[Cloud Cover]

And our diesel subs are the best in the world. Good old fossil fuel!

That speaks of the sad state of the world I guess.  They are pretty good running on electric, fairly quiet unless beans were served with brekky.

 

[suffolkowner]

I tend to agree with ERC's take on the India-Trudeau situation, but does anyone else think this guy Jaspal Atwal should have been flagged as a security risk? Like to our own PM?

 

[jollyjacktar]

I would agree that the PM is a security risk too.  :nod:

 

[suffolkowner]

I would agree that the PM is a security risk too.  :nod:

yes I think he is too sadly

 

[George Wallace]

I tend to agree with ERC's take on the India-Trudeau situation, but does anyone else think this guy Jaspal Atwal should have been flagged as a security risk? Like to our own PM?

Trudeau has known Atwal for years.  There are photos of the two of them together from over a ten year or more period of time.  Atwal, a failed assassin and involved in automobile insurance fraud 9http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/what-we-know-about-jaspal-atwal) has been a Surrey Fleetwood-Port Kells Liberal riding association executive.  (https://bcblue.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/convicted-assassin-sits-on-liberal-party-ridings-executive-board-of-directors/)
I suspected that Trudeau overrode the security advice from his security people when he met with Joshua Boyle.  I am even more convinced that Trudeau overrode the advice of his security people on the Atwal matter.  He, following his usual MO, is not taking any blame, and a 'sacrificial lamb' is being brought forward to absorb all blame.
Can Canada's international reputation get any worse?

 

[jollyjacktar]

Can Canada's international reputation get any worse?

Yup.  He can be given a second peopledate in 2019.

 

[Rifleman62]

Can Canada's international reputation get any worse?

Waiting for the shoe to drop.


https://www.thespec.com/news-story/2219070-sex-pizza-and-politics-with-justin-trudeau/

Sex, pizza and politics with Justin Trudeau - 13 Oct 11

Extract: “The intensity, the excitement of being in the middle of a political campaign — it’s heavy, it’s fun stuff,” started Trudeau. “There’s pizza, sex and all sorts of fun things.”

It was one of several lighter moments in a student town hall session at McMaster Wednesday afternoon, in which the son of former prime minister Pierre Trudeau took questions on student concerns and the future of the country.

 

[suffolkowner]

Trudeau has known Atwal for years.  There are photos of the two of them together from over a ten year or more period of time.  Atwal, a failed assassin and involved in automobile insurance fraud 9http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/what-we-know-about-jaspal-atwal) has been a Surrey Fleetwood-Port Kells Liberal riding association executive.  (https://bcblue.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/convicted-assassin-sits-on-liberal-party-ridings-executive-board-of-directors/)
I suspected that Trudeau overrode the security advice from his security people when he met with Joshua Boyle.  I am even more convinced that Trudeau overrode the advice of his security people on the Atwal matter.  He, following his usual MO, is not taking any blame, and a 'sacrificial lamb' is being brought forward to absorb all blame.
Can Canada's international reputation get any worse?

I guess there's no one to save him from himself

 

[RangerRay]

I thought I heard of this guy before.  Atwal was not an unknown quantity.

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/what-we-know-about-jaspal-atwal

What we know about Jaspal Atwal, the attempted murderer invited to dine with Trudeau

But Jaspal Atwal, who was photographed with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau and Infrastructure Minister Amarjeet Sohi at an event in Mumbai on Tuesday, already had something of a history of inserting himself into Canadian Liberal politics before he was invited to the event on Thursday by MP Randeep Sarai.

 

[FSTO]

I feel that the PMO is the ones who should take all the heat for this. They seem to think they are smarter than everyone else and when their tidy little plans blow up in their face they are unable to deal with the fall out effectively. 

 

[BeyondTheNow]

(Sorry to throw this in the centre of current flow. It’s related, but a little off course.)

This was a good read, especially as its source isn’t the typical media go-to for me.

...The worst part is none of this was necessary. The differences we have with Canada should have been left for the formal discussions. That is where they are best addressed. But if you’ve invited someone to your home it behooves the host to ensure he’s received graciously. Once an impression to the contrary is created, repeated and spread many will believe you’ve treated your guest badly. This is very far removed from Atithi Devo Bhava. I fear the Trudeaus will go home believing they were an exception to this much-touted commitment...

https://m.hindustantimes.com/columns/the-truth-about-the-snub-to-trudeau/story-LEu1KgxNvniVvI7ruJVfNM.html

 

[Jarnhamar]

Posting this picture less as an attempt at humour and more to make a point.  I think the "heterosexual" one is lame but for the remainder of the pictures it shows the actor-PM's fascination (or obsession) with playing dress up.

 

[YZT580]

Did the Indian government actually invite the Trudeau's or was his visit more like 'Oh dear, Aunt Matilda just 'phoned and she is stopping in tonight for an extended visit'?  I have gotten the impression that this was more his idea and he more or less foisted himself upon his hosts:hence his reception

 

[Kirkhill]

At the detective’s desk, a story of crime is pieced together from multiple sources, but even then, a charging document is not the truth; it is subject to challenge. In literature, truth is an investigation, not an end point, so the story is an instrument for revealing the complexity of being alive, and wisdom, rather than certainty, is the hope.
In politics, truth tends to be whatever those holding the bullhorn say it is.

A long, and well worth reading, dissertation on truth, sex, power and victimhood, and religion. 

From the well known hard right organ "The Nation"

https://www.thenation.com/article/what-we-dont-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-metoo/

 

[Jarnhamar]

Yea nah Trudeau will just arrange for a second cross Canada tour to engage with every day Canadians in town halls, again, and reconnect with everyone. Maybe a pit stop or to at whatever culture he hasn't played dress up with yet.

Nothing to see here (except some selfies) ;D

 

[Altair]

Yea nah Trudeau will just arrange for a second cross Canada tour to engage with every day Canadians in town halls, again, and reconnect with everyone. Maybe a pit stop or to at whatever culture he hasn't played dress up with yet.

Nothing to see here (except some selfies) ;D

3rd cross country town hall tour.

 

[jollyjacktar]

Justin time for Montreal's Just For Laughs Festival.  He'll fit right in.