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This story, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Ottawa Citizen is both more and less worrisome than it looks:

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/public-servants-shed-cloak-of-impartiality-at-least-for-the-day
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Public servants shed cloak of impartiality – at least for the day

LEE BERTHIAUME, OTTAWA CITIZEN
KATHRYN MAY, OTTAWA CITIZEN

Published on: November 7, 2015

Federal public servants heckled a journalist and cheered loudly during a press conference at Foreign Affairs headquarters Friday, then bombarded Prime Minister Justin Trudeau with hugs and displays of affection.

Meanwhile, the largest federal union representing scientists and other professionals in the public service patted itself on the back for its “big win” in helping defeat Stephen Harper.

Some say bureaucrats and federal unions are simply relieved after a decade of the Conservatives, whose relationship with the civil service was strained at best. But the incidents Friday have nonetheless prompted fresh questions about Canada’s tradition of a non-partisan public service.

With hundreds of departmental staff watching, Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion held a press conference in the lobby of the Lester B. Pearson building to respond to U.S. President Barack Obama’s rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline.

At one point, a reporter asking Dion a question elicited a loud groan from the crowd of employees. The crowd cheered his response.

Foreign affairs officials then mobbed Trudeau as he came forward to greet them. A photo posted by the Prime Minister’s Office on Twitter shows one public servant hugging the prime minister as smiling colleagues wait to meet him.

Trudeau spokesman Cameron Ahmad said government officials “obviously don’t encourage heckling of journalists during press conferences.” Asked about the public servants’ emotional reaction to Trudeau, he said, “We made it clear throughout the election campaign that we want to work collaboratively with the public service.”

Retired ambassador Ferry de Kerckhove, now a senior fellow at the University of Ottawa, said the previous government largely ignored advice from the Foreign Affairs department. He said since the election, officials have been “literally beaming because they felt they were going to be useful again.”

“There’s no question that the victory of the Liberals (is) giving the department a second lease on life,” he said of the warm response for Trudeau. “And if (NDP leader Tom) Mulcair had won, it would probably be the same type of reaction.”

Retired diplomat Daryl Copeland, a fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, agreed that the public service “has taken a terrible beating” under the Conservatives. But he said the crowd’s heckling and cheering was unacceptable. “It was in poor taste and unfortunately provides grist to the mill for those who believe the public service has an agenda.”

Also providing grist was the president of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada, who on Friday said the union was so pleased at the success of its campaign to help defeat the Conservatives that it will continue with “activism.” PIPSC wants to make sure the Liberals deliver on their election promises to restore a “culture of respect” in the public service.

“Remember that feeling of relief you felt on Oct. 20?” PIPSC president Debi Daviau told delegates at the union’s annual meeting. “When it comes to victories it doesn’t get much better than what we achieved on Oct. 19.”

Donald Savoie, a public administration expert at the University of Moncton, said public servants are gripped by “the euphoria” of working for a government that promises renewed respect.

He said many hope they are returning to their “days in the sun” when public servants worked on policy and were listened to. He likened it to when Pope John XXIII opened the Vatican and liberalized the Catholic Church.

As a result, bureaucrats’ heckling and cheering, and unions revelling in their political campaigns, may not be appropriate but isn’t unexpected.

“Don’t try to make sense of this. School’s out and people are beside themselves with joy,” Savoie said. “Stay tuned, it’s too fresh. Wait until things calm down in a few months.

“I wouldn’t get too worked up because what happened today doesn’t define the public service and its non-partisanship.”


First, some background: Conservatives, going all the way back to John Diefenbaker, in the 1950s, have been very, very suspicious of the public service, writ large; just Google Lester Pearson, Mitchell Sharp and Marcel Massé and you will see why ~ the upper ranks of the national public service looked like an apprenticeship programme for the Liberal Party's cabinet table. That's why Brian Mulroney's "pink slips and running shoes" quip (1980s) resonated with Conservatives then ... and still does.

But, broadly and generally, the symbiosis between the the public service Mandarins and the Liberals was a two way street. The Mandarins always had and still have their own mid to long term plan for Canada which they "sold" to the Liberals at least as much ~ more, in my opinion ~ as the Liberals imposed their policies on the public service. That included the Pearson/Trudeau Liberals' "lurch to the left" in the 1960s and '70s; the public servants were, generally, sympathetic towards, even enamoured with the Scandinavian model of the Social Democratic welfare state. One must recall that public servants in the 1950s, '60s and, amongst the senior ranks, the 1970s, shared one common, defining experience ... not war (although a great many (1 in 12) Canadians put on a uniform, the Second World War was not the "defining" experience the First War had been ... the unifying and defining and, indeed, soul searing experience was the Great Depression. Senior men (they were all men) like Pearson and Sharp watched as the Great Depression destroyed the emerging prosperity of the 1920s and rendered people both homeless and hopeless ... those who have never read nor seen John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath need to watch/read it to have even a slight, remote sense of what the "dirty thirties" were  like, but trust me, the Great Depression was far, far more important (socially) that any war.

The Mandarins had a plan, it closely matched the plan the Liberals developed in Kingston in 1960, and it was the precursor of the plan which Pierre Trudeau, Michael Pitfield, Ivan Head and others used when they set about re-ordering Canadian society in a way that owed far more to Prime Minister Trudeau's old teacher at the LSE, Harold Lasky, than it did to Arnold Heeney, Norman Robertson and Gordon Robertson, those exemplars of the Golden Age of Canadian public service and diplomacy.

One of the main outputs of Pierre Trudeau's plan was that the public sector balooned in ways that bothered, in the 1980s and, I believe, still bothers many of the Mandarins.

Essentially, in my opinion, we have a traditional public service, made up of a mix of managers and clerical staff (officers and other ranks, if you like) that helps the government of the day develop and implement policies. But we also have, now, a much larger, unionized, public work force that delivers services and programmes.

There is, of course, a need for public servants to deliver services. Any time, just as one example, the state can use all of it coercive powers against an individual (police, crown prosecutors, prison guards, tax collectors, etc) we ought to insist that they are all 100% public servants and, therefore, 100% accountable to the public. However, those 'public servants' who e.g. deliver mail, deliver air traffic control, (most) scientific research, technical regulations for e.g. radio licenses or the radio licenses themselves, or visas to visitors need not be "public servants" in the same way that a police officer or a policy analyst ought to be. Much of what is now the public sector can be and should be contracted out to the wholly private sector ... and credit is due to (mostly Liberal) governments which have, at least partially, privatized many "public services."

What we are seeing, in my opinion, in the story at the top, is a disconnect between the unionized "work force" and the Mandarins. I think the mandarins were, and still are, largely sympathetic to Prime Minister Harper's agenda ... they set a lot of it, including policies that aimed to curb the power of the too large, unionized "public sector." The too fat, too "detached" from real "public service" unionized "public sector" fought back and it thinks it has won ... I'm doubtful.
 
I think this is another case of the media seeking a story where there is none.  I was present at NDHQ in 2011 when the MND was re-elected and re-appointed; there were cheers and applause.  Flash forward to 2015, and once again there were cheers and applause.

I suspect there may have been similar applause in 2011 at External Affairs Foreign Affairs Foreign Affairs and Trade Development whatever the hell they're called today; the difference being that there was no media present.  Indeed, much of the "story" seems to be that some media were tipped off about the event while others were not; sour grapes among the pundit class = critical articles.
 
I think I see a little flaw in your analysis ERC.

The event described in the article occurred in the lobby of the headquarters of External Affairs. At that location, the overwhelming majority of civil servants would fall in your category of "traditional civil service", not  the "larger, unionized public workforce to deliver services and programs".

So the event does not support you narrative of disconnect between the two.

To be fair, as Dataperson indicated, a meet and greet with the new minister where they are cheered and applauded is not unheard of. In this case, particularly after PM Trudeau showed up, it was a little exaggerated a reaction, but civil servants are human being and more likely than not, some of them were ardent Liberal supporters (likely those who hugged the PM). As long as you didn't see any of the DM's, ADM's, and so forth from the upper echelons hugging the PM or cheering in an exaggerated fashion, I wouldn't read too much into this.

And I don't think, contrary to Dataperson, that some media were "tipped-off". The media are going gaga over this new government (more than the civil service, anyway) and Trudeau is playing that card (very well I must say) by publicizing every event and every move he makes. The media are just following on every one of those move like groupies, probably because every such move is now easy to find out, when only a few days before the journalist had to work their butts off just to find out if and where anything would happen or be announced. 
 
I think there has been a huge, sea state change amongst the Mandarins. They, the senior civil servants, used to be reliably Liberal in values, as the lower levels still are. But my sense is that, since the 1970s, the Mandarins, let's say, just for the sake of arguments, the ADMs and above, have become less and less Liberal while the Conservative Party has come, more and more, to see the world through the eyes of the top levels of the civil service.

My sense is that the 1970s were the key: the Mandarins lost faith in the Liberal Party on economic, social and foreign/defence policy issues. Many (by no means all) senior civil servants understood that what Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau introduced could not be sustained, economically ~ indeed, Prime Minister Trudeau's own finance minister, Jean Chrétien, had, in his turn at the helm, to offload much of the "Just Society" costs on to the provinces, lest they bankrupt the national government. The decision (1968/69) to withdraw from NATO perplexed and frightened the Mandarins, so did the whole notion of "entitlements" rather than "needs" as a way of allocating money to social programmes.

So, in my opinion, two changes:

    1. The Mandarin class, not the whole public sector, left the Liberal Party, in the 1980s and '90s; and, almost simultaneously

    2. The Conservatives (PCs, Reform, Alliance, eventually the CPC) came to see the nation and the world through much the same lens as do the Mandarins.
 
If your view is correct ERC, then two things could happen:

Either (1) the newly elected Liberal ministers will take their cue and advice from the mandarins, in which case what they actually do while in office won't be much different from what the Harper government was doing; or (2) the alleged "friction/disconnect" between the civil service and the elected government will indeed exist, but at the top level this time, which cannot be good for the country.
 
I think it will be a muddle, some of the EX's came up under the Conservatives and will still think that way, although not out loud. The PS politically is a mixed bag, in my office it's a spread across the board from Green to Reform. I think the lower ranks of the PS are fooling themselves that "everything will be better now". For myself under this new government;

As a PS employee, I will likely benefit as no action against my pension or sick time is likely in the near future.
As a up and coming "senior" I will likely lose out some benefits.
As a gun owner I am likely to get truly fu*ked in about a year.

Once the new government gets a chance to drive for a bit, the same realities that faced the CPC will be there. The deficit pledge will give them some slack to play with for a bit, but sooner or later the piper will want to be paid.
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
If your view is correct ERC, then two things could happen:

Either (1) the newly elected Liberal ministers will take their cue and advice from the mandarins, in which case what they actually do while in office won't be much different from what the Harper government was doing; or (2) the alleged "friction/disconnect" between the civil service and the elected government will indeed exist, but at the top level this time, which cannot be good for the country.

I would suspect that case 1 is what we will see after a 4-6 month "period of change". The changes proposed are a mirror of Mr. Trudeau himself- lots of pomp and circumstance, not a lot of depth.

At the end of the day, the Liberal platform didn't call for major changes to the PS aside from cosmetic changes. As Colin P noted, at some point the fiscal piper has to be paid in spite of a pledge of deficit spending. That said, I suspect that the piper will be paid in late 2019, AFTER the next election so that the liberals can run on all the great things they've paid for.

On a side note while discussing the PS- the PS employees in my office (in Manitoba) were generally pro-conservative and were not all that excited to see Mr. Trudeau elected, despite the fact that they generally agreed that they would be better off financially with a liberal government. I think the impression the media gives comes from 2 sources:

1. The Liberals, to their credit, have done a terrific job in taking advantage of Mr. Trudeau's main gift, which is his "likeability". Their use of the internet and pomp and circumstance (the change in government felt like a coronation...) has created an illusion of "real change".

2. The liberals are strongest (and conservatives weakest) in major urban centres (Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Halifax, etc) where the major media outlets are located. It's perfectly reasonable that the reaction to a liberal win in Toronto would be more frenzied than in say, Regina or Edmonton, amongst the civil service who reflect the population they're in. So the fact that a bunch of PS employees in Ottawa are excited and PS employees in Brandon, Mb are not excited shouldn't be a shock. The major media outlets (CTV news, CBC, National Post, Toronto star, etc) are centred in Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver, etc so the fact that their reports reflect the reality as they see it shouldn't be that shocking. It would be less biased if they stated that, "The PS in Ottawa/Toronto is excited to see the change" vice just saying it's the PS in whole, but that's a discussion for another thread.
 
Other point to remember: Canada's urban areas are under-represented in the federal government. Historical issues push out disproprotionate influence to rural areas and to declining areas like the maritimes.  Seats in PEI have 33K voters, where some urban seats have in excess of 125K voters.
 
The problem for the Conservatives was they needed to "scapegoat" the PS to appeal to a portion of their base with the same reasoning the Liberals attacked gun owners to appeal to a part of their base. Are some PS types useless, absolutely, but many are very committed to their work. What the new CPC needs to avoid is generic messaging and targeting a particular group unless of course it's ISIS. 
 
I really don't find the PS was scapegoated at all. The Tories sought fairer compensation for the taxpayer, and started cutting some bloat. Whether those cuts went in the right place is how they were managed.
 
PuckChaser said:
I really don't find the PS was scapegoated at all. The Tories sought fairer compensation for the taxpayer, and started cutting some bloat. Whether those cuts went in the right place is how they were managed.

in fact, the PS grew monstrously in the early years of the Conservative government; even after the "bloat" was cut, the PS was still larger than when they took office.
 
No one can deny that there was a frosty relationship between the PS and the CPC.  While I don't denounce the actions some people took at that Foreign Affairs welcome session in terms of welcoming the new minister and PM, I do take issue with booing the questions the media had.  That is where the line was crossed.  I'm sure there were some e-mails circulating after the event reminding Public Servants of their role and conduct.

I do belive that this is an isolated event. 
 
Remius said:
No one can deny that there was a frosty relationship between the PS and the CPC.  While I don't denounce the actions some people took at that Foreign Affairs welcome session in terms of welcoming the new minister and PM, I do take issue with booing the questions the media had.  That is where the line was crossed.  I'm sure there were some e-mails circulating after the event reminding Public Servants of their role and conduct.

I do belive that this is an isolated event.
I do denounce it. While individual members of the PS can have whatever personal viewpoints they want, having our "non-partisan"  civil service fawning over the Liberals like a bunch of girls at a Beiber concert is unprofessional at best and shows am incredible bias at worst. This lends some credence to the theory that the CPC had to deal with a adversarial public service.

And I can see why this might have contributed to the fact Harper felt the need to run everything from the PMO . If you can't trust your senior civil servants to implement policy objectively then maybe you feel like you need to have it run by people you trust ie partisans and personal staff.

Real or not, this perception is out there and affects the running of this country.
 
Colin P said:
The problem for the Conservatives was they needed to "scapegoat" the PS to appeal to a portion of their base with the same reasoning the Liberals attacked gun owners to appeal to a part of their base. Are some PS types useless, absolutely, but many are very committed to their work. What the new CPC needs to avoid is generic messaging and targeting a particular group unless of course it's ISIS.


But, remember, please, that the Conservatives' (of various types) animus towards the PS is well rooted in fact: see my para beginning, "First, some background ..." One cannot deny that the PS, top to bottom, in the 1950s, '60s and into the '70s, was really nothing more than a "farm team" for the Liberal Party of Canada. And, it was a two way street: the PS believed in Liberal values because they, men like Pearson, Sharp and Marcel Massé, when they were senior public servants, brought those values to the Liberal Party.

The Conservatives were wrong to believe, as too many ~ including Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper ~ did, at first, that the Mandarins didn't want to be non-partisan. The Mandarins, so many of whom were Oxbridge men (not many women, at all), were very much influenced by the British PS with its ability to moderate, equally, Churchill's Tories and Labourites like Nye Bevin. They, like their British confrères, had a "master plan" which they intended to implement through both Liberal and Conservative (Conservative and Labour in the British case) administrations.

My sense of our, Canadian, PS is that the senior ranks (DMs and ADMs) are non-partisan, despite individual socio-economic and political views ranging from socialist to libertarian, and want to serve the government of the day fairly and honestly and to keep it, the elected government, on a sane, moderate course ~ veering left here and right there but, never, too very far from the centre. Middle management (managers, directors and DGs) is, often, more actively partisan than the senior folks but it (middle management) is buffered from the levers of real power by the seniors, so no harm is done. The "bottom" of the PS doesn't matter.

 
PuckChaser said:
I really don't find the PS was scapegoated at all. The Tories sought fairer compensation for the taxpayer, and started cutting some bloat. Whether those cuts went in the right place is how they were managed.

I got all the CPC mailings the reduction of numbers and changing pension and sick leave was fairly prominent. What I saw from a internal viewpoint is a total lack of trust, which I can say had some grounding in truth, but it was clear that we would be targeted regardless of whatever facts came out. Case in point is holding up as example, peoples with large sick leave banks (because they didn't abuse it) as something that was bad. Cutting a program staff by 40% without any consultation with the programs managers or regional managers and only giving those managers 15minutes notice of the extent of the cuts and which positions would be cut. Thanks to the poor job in the regulatory reduction consultation, the poor job in drafting said Act and zero input allowed in how to manage staff reduction, we ended up with a Clusterf*ck which ended up having to hire people back to handle the workload that never dropped as much as anticipated. However they did succeed in dumping corporate knowledge out the door and morale in the dumpster. The problem with the CPC is they took many good ideas and implemented them terribly. I personally would like to wrap anchor chain around the twit that came up with the Omibill ideas and toss them off the pier. Crappy governance is crappy governance no matter who does it.
 
Colin P said:
.... we ended up with a Clusterf*ck which ended up having to hire people back to handle the workload that never dropped as much as anticipated ....
And in some departments, those hired back were getting their pension AND their salary, doing their old job in their old cubicle - way to save money!

Colin P said:
However they did succeed in dumping corporate knowledge out the door and morale in the dumpster.
:nod:
 
Colin P said:
The problem with the CPC is they took many good ideas and implemented them terribly.

Well! Ain't that a first for a government  :facepalm:

I do agree however: kill the idiot that decided omnibus bills are OK in Canadian governance. I hate the things and find them totally undemocratic. Even if it's not your intention, it just has the perspective that you are trying to hide something deep in the bowels of the bill that you hope no one will find until it's too late - and without any chance of a debate.
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
I do agree however: kill the idiot that decided omnibus bills are OK in Canadian governance. I hate the things and find them totally undemocratic. Even if it's not your intention, it just has the perspective that you are trying to hide something deep in the bowels of the bill that you hope no one will find until it's too late - and without any chance of a debate.
Ah, but it lets you throw together stuff the other side can't stand for (x) and stuff they might (y), and then say "hey, you had a chance to vote for y, but you didn't, did you?"
 
No, no, no.  It's all about efficiency and brevity.  Saves time and paper by condensing it into one neat package instead of numerous bulky ones... :nod:
 
Colin P said:
I got all the CPC mailings the reduction of numbers and changing pension and sick leave was fairly prominent. What I saw from a internal viewpoint is a total lack of trust, which I can say had some grounding in truth, but it was clear that we would be targeted regardless of whatever facts came out. Case in point is holding up as example, peoples with large sick leave banks (because they didn't abuse it) as something that was bad. Cutting a program staff by 40% without any consultation with the programs managers or regional managers and only giving those managers 15minutes notice of the extent of the cuts and which positions would be cut. Thanks to the poor job in the regulatory reduction consultation, the poor job in drafting said Act and zero input allowed in how to manage staff reduction, we ended up with a Clusterf*ck which ended up having to hire people back to handle the workload that never dropped as much as anticipated. However they did succeed in dumping corporate knowledge out the door and morale in the dumpster. The problem with the CPC is they took many good ideas and implemented them terribly. I personally would like to wrap anchor chain around the twit that came up with the Omibill ideas and toss them off the pier. Crappy governance is crappy governance no matter who does it.

The PMO tried the consultation route with DND and Leslies' report.....That went well.
 
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