Replacing the Subs

[Navy_Pete]

I don’t have alot of confidence in our politicians and bureaucrats to make the best apolitical decision.

It's a $100B decision that has strategic foreign relation impacts, of course it's a political decision.

Doesn't mean we won't get a good sub, as both met the actual requirements and were scrubbed against other really good subs. Probably ups and downs to either option, including contract terms, techonolgy exchanges and things like training etc.

I suspect the geopolitics favours the German/Norwegian option for subs, but who knows. SK is also offering a lot of really good army kit, so wouldn't be surprised if we start to jump on that for the Latvia mission in particular.

 

[FJAG]

Quick reminder:

The man leads a minority government.

If he keeps up going the way he's going then the Liberals are going to see something they haven't seen in a very, very long time - my vote.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

If he keeps up going the way he's going then the Liberals are going to see something they haven't seen in a very, very long time - my vote.

If they would reverse course on gun confiscation, the Liberals might run the table…

 

[PrairieFella]

The RCN has specifically asked about land attack and anti-ship missile capability within the RFI itself, and the general trend within the Navy as of late has been to invest in these 'excess capabilities'. See the plans to purchase and operate Tomahawk from the River class in the future. VLS is an effective way of having this capability integrated while not taking up valuable space within the torpedo magazine that horizontally launched systems need. VLS is a potentially very valuable bit of futureproofing and a good deal of additional lethality.

Saying it is a system they have "no requirement for, doesn't need and doesn't want" is an assumption that I personally wouldn't be comfortable making as an outsider looking in.

We need them for our future nuclear deterrent anyways

 

[PrairieFella]

It's a $100B decision that has strategic foreign relation impacts, of course it's a political decision.

Doesn't mean we won't get a good sub, as both met the actual requirements and were scrubbed against other really good subs. Probably ups and downs to either option, including contract terms, techonolgy exchanges and things like training etc.

I suspect the geopolitics favours the German/Norwegian option for subs, but who knows. SK is also offering a lot of really good army kit, so wouldn't be surprised if we start to jump on that for the Latvia mission in particular.

I personally think itll be the other way around. Naval purchase in SK to reinforce our commitment to our allies in the Pacific and land kit from Europe since reasonably thats the only place we'll be using it outside Canada.

 

[FJAG]

If they would reverse course on gun confiscation, the Liberals might run the table…

Yup. I'm a gun control advocate but I think the Liberals programs have gone too far. It should concentrate on criminals and not make ordinary citizens into criminals. That said, the urban vote is just too strong and their feelings on the subject are the trump card on the subject. I don't think you'll see a reversal anytime soon.