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Replacing the Subs

Interesting article. I've heard many adjectives used to compare nuclear boats to classic propulsion boats, but "more nimble" has never been one of them.
 
PHughes said:
Realistically, the western Pacific is to Canada what the north Atlantic is to Australia or Japan or Korea. For the RCN, the CSPS is primarily about the GIUK and the Arctic archipelago choke points. The CSPS is NATO centric and ASW focused. The RCN wants Hunter Killer boats with the highest survivability . . . aka stealth . . . ratings possible. The RCN knows the two greatest threats to boats are enemy Hunter Killers and ASW aircraft. The 212CD has the best stealth available to defeat the enemy subs and is the only boat that has an anti ASW aircraft weapon, a Canadian made weapon.

The guesswork and opinions about delivery schedules is fun but the critical path is far more likely to be the RCN’s ability to train the required crews.
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Where do you get your hard fast knowledge from ? What is your experience in the Naval and/or Submarine community ?
 
Czech_pivo said:
Hmmm, IF we decide to buy Hanwha subs we can partner with them directly on this little bit of news….

Trump says South Korea has approval to build nuclear-powered submarine​


www.reuters.com

Trump says South Korea has approval to build nuclear-powered submarine

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday he has given South Korea approval to build a nuclear-powered submarine, a dramatic move that would admit Seoul to a small club of nations possessing such vessels. The submarine will be built in a Philadelphia shipyard, where South Korean firms have...
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

EDIT - the world truly is getting a lot more scary.
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I have no issues with SK having nuc boats.
 
These guys are shameless!

The submarine Carney got to see was only recently launched and built for the South Korean navy. Yet, in a bold marketing move, it flew a Canadian flag from its mast,

Carney tours newly completed South Korean sub as Canada weighs multi-billion dollar order​

PM got to see what kind of submarine South Korea wants to sell to Canada​


Showing the prime minister the boat under construction was a not-so-subtle demonstration by the Koreans that their production lines are active and they can live up to the pledge to deliver four submarines to Canada by 2035 — the navy’s deadline to begin retiring the four, old Victoria-class boats.
 
Czech_pivo said:
These guys are shameless!

The submarine Carney got to see was only recently launched and built for the South Korean navy. Yet, in a bold marketing move, it flew a Canadian flag from its mast,

Carney tours newly completed South Korean sub as Canada weighs multi-billion dollar order​

PM got to see what kind of submarine South Korea wants to sell to Canada​


Showing the prime minister the boat under construction was a not-so-subtle demonstration by the Koreans that their production lines are active and they can live up to the pledge to deliver four submarines to Canada by 2035 — the navy’s deadline to begin retiring the four, old Victoria-class boats.
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The article also said that the second sub under construction was draped in South Korean/Canadian colours!!

And apparently, Carney's visit went 30 minutes longer then planned.

Edit: Removed Noahs take on the visit as already posted above.
 
Halifax Tar said:
I am not sure sure the dominant left hand side of our political spectrum will ever allow that to happen.

But I agree.
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Its not the left hand side that is the only problem . There are plenty on the right who look at it as an exorbitant expense. Actually what I find is penny pinchiers on the right are the biggest challenge to Canada having nice things. Always shrieking about taxes and government spending.
 
Underway said:
Its not the left hand side that is the only problem . There are plenty on the right who look at it as an exorbitant expense. Actually what I find is penny pinchiers on the right are the biggest challenge to Canada having nice things. Always shrieking about taxes and government spending.
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Agree!
I've said it many times on here, Canadians are the cheapest people in the world.
 
Czech_pivo said:
Agree!
I've said it many times on here, Canadians are the cheapest people in the world.
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I'd like to point out that you currently have a functioning government...
So the cheapest people in the world tend to be US Reps and Senators who are getting paid while ignoring the nation.
 
Underway said:
Its not the left hand side that is the only problem . There are plenty on the right who look at it as an exorbitant expense. Actually what I find is penny pinchiers on the right are the biggest challenge to Canada having nice things. Always shrieking about taxes and government spending.
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Pragmatic vs. ideological fiscal conservatism
 
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