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Replacing the Subs

They were explicit that there will be no changes to the subs and we will learn to use whatever weapons the platform comes with. He also said they will adopt the procedures used to operate and maintain the host navy subs. I suspect if we go KSS-III, we won't buy the missiles at first, but eventually buy a few and "certify the VLS cells". At which point the usage and development of doctrine would be more common. I would also see SK start to test more weapon systems for the VLS.
 
They were explicit that there will be no changes to the subs and we will learn to use whatever weapons the platform comes with. He also said they will adopt the procedures used to operate and maintain the host navy subs. I suspect if we go KSS-III, we won't buy the missiles at first, but eventually buy a few and "certify the VLS cells". At which point the usage and development of doctrine would be more common. I would also see SK start to test more weapon systems for the VLS.
I would suspect SK would set up a missile facility in canada for the hyunmoo 4-4, or the next Gen Chonryong SLCM. Building them here makes sense for us and for them to have a safe country building them. They are also developing an insert for the VLS to take anti aircraft missiles. Its an insert to the cell, and 1 cell can hold several AAM, which would give huge versatility and self defense against sub hunters.
 
Voicing an opinion, even a contrary one, inside your workplace is one thing; particularly if said workplace has an established level of information security and confidentiality. Carrying that discussion - even just your part of it - into the public realm without permission, well . . .

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If you are invited into the PMO or the Cabinet room during work hours, that is your work place.

Your opinions are appropriate. You get to decide if you want to upset your current master that brought you and appeal to a future master.
 
I would suspect SK would set up a missile facility in canada for the hyunmoo 4-4, or the next Gen Chonryong SLCM. Building them here makes sense for us and for them to have a safe country building them. They are also developing an insert for the VLS to take anti aircraft missiles. Its an insert to the cell, and 1 cell can hold several AAM, which would give huge versatility and self defense against sub hunters.
When you have a launcher you can do lots of things with it. Surviellance drones, UUV's (though probably those are better through the torp tubes), decoys whatever works.
 
When you have a launcher you can do lots of things with it. Surviellance drones, UUV's (though probably those are better through the torp tubes), decoys whatever works.

Equally "They're not" does not equal "We're not".

The issue really is how many things can you launch from a given platform and what area can you affect.
 
It would be interesting to see what it would take to launch a 5600 km Valkyrie MQ-58, with 1200 lbs worth of low cost cruise missiles from a KSSIII or U-212.
 
Philippe Lagassé has an interesting take on the 2 different fleet idea.
 
Let's get a few things straight:

First, Intent on not moving the boats between coasts and the reality of what could happen in the next 30 years are two different things. You can't plan your acquisition of assets on your current intent without considering potential future events. Therefore, I don't think it adds any plausibility to a mixed fleet option.

Second, based on the interview given by RAdm Robinson above we have to consider the fact that numbers of boats of each type and per coast would have to play differently in such a scenario. When I was in, we needed three boats to keep one in operation at all time. I recall only a small window where that was not the case while the O-boats underwent the SOUP refits. Robinson, however, mentions the need for a ratio of four boats to keep one operational. I don't know if this is based on actual lack of capability to do more (and go to a 3 to 1 ratio) for technical reasons as the boats are now more complex and sophisticated, or if it is simply because, under the current availability of trained personnel and the fleet of four boats the RCN has gotten comfortable with that ratio. In any events: Robinson indicates the RCN requirement as being a minimum of 8 boats, so one per coast is available, and preferred 12 boats so three are available, including one deployed to the Arctic. In this last case (12 boats) with three boats deployable, including one to the Arctic, each group of four would have to be colocated, so one coast (likely the East coast, which has better and more direct access to the Arctic) would have to have 8 boats, to the other coast's four.

In a split fleet, would the RCN want to wait as long as it would take to get 8 boats from TKMS, on one hand, or to have a secondary fleet of four boats of a different model.

P.S., I don't think that even a split of 6/6 boats between Hanwa and TKMS gets us to 12 boats delivered to us as fast as a single order for 12 with Hanwa alone.
 
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