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ROTP 2010-2011

CFAT booked for January 28th, provided I'm successful Medical and Interview should be soon after. I just picked up a practice book for the CFAT to help me study for it. I'm finished High School on the 26th so all my final marks will be able to be submitted to RMC for selection.
 
So the day unfolded like this...CFAT, Interview, LUNCH then medical!  It was a great successful day!  I have qualified for everything I applied for but I have some decisions to ponder.  The two trades I put down was Logistics officer and Health Care Administrator Officer.  Both ROTP.  The interviewer (great guy!  Loved chatting with him) said I aced the interview and did great on the CFAT.  But my marks from highschool and college where only average and that could hurt me during the selection process.  He said not do discourage me, he figures I am right on the line of a yes OR a no. 

Soooo, I could wait it out (first review board Mid March) and find out sometime in April or MAY, do nothing till Sept (not even BMQ) and then start school IF I was selected.  Then, go to BMQ next spring. 
OR
Choose another trade. I have qualified for all officer trades except one (can't remember which one that was)  If I'm selected, go to BMQ in the near future and then jump right into training.  Trouble is, it's so hard to pick...I mean, this is your career!  I have a background in computers, so I was thinking maybe something with that....I'm not sure.  I would welcome any suggestions.  :)

Anyway, I'm very please with my results thus far!  :blotto:
 
so i assume its possible for someone to do the interview before the medical comes back from ottawa?
 
so i assume its possible for someone to do the interview before the medical comes back from ottawa?

It was possible in my case.  :)  good luck Terminator50
 
So I just finished my ROTP interview, medical and CFAT yesterday. I was told in the interview I scored extremely high on the CFAT. I'm currently in my second year at a civi U, doing sociology and psychology with a B+ average (3.14 GPA). I was told after a gruelling 90 minute interview that I was suitable and capable for my three trade selections which were Armoured, Infantry, and Military Police in that order. I was then told I was also competitive for all three, and was then extended an invitation to attend the Military Police Officer Assessment Centre. I'm slated to go February 18th of this year. Has anyone else been given this offer? I'm not sure if I will go MPO if given the choice between Armoured and MPO when I hear back in March, but I see no harm in going and doing the workshops... maybe I will change my mind.

For the medical side of things, I had no hiccups. I suffered a head trauma when I was younger due to a mountain bike accident and was told to have my physician sign off on some forms saying that I have never had any complications. She cited multiple reports from the accident, saying that I had suffered no damage -- physical or psychological -- and did a quick assessment in the office. I also got dinged because of a shellfish allergy, but again, she signed off saying that there is an extremely low risk that I would suffer a severe reaction if exposed... that being said, I eat shell fish from time to time since I love it -- at worst it feels like a midget is choking me. I'm going to drop off these additions for my medical file tomorrow, and hope that when it hits that final board review, that they decide I am fit to serve my country. Right now I am in peak physical condition, my vitals are A-1, and my feet, knees, eyes and hearing are also A-1. Just that stupid allergy that is a concern. Has anyone else had this issue from a shell fish allergy? Did it make you ineligible?

All the hard parts are over, so now I need to wait for that decision! Good luck to everyone else, and hopefully I meet some of you on BMOQ, or even at the Military Police Officer Assessment Center!
 
TFLY said:
I have qualified for all officer trades except one (can't remember which one that was)  If I'm selected, go to BMQ in the near future and then jump right into training.  Trouble is, it's so hard to pick...I mean, this is your career!  I have a background in computers, so I was thinking maybe something with that....I'm not sure.  I would welcome any suggestions.  :)

Yea -- its a hard choice... it took me about a year to pick three trades... I would talk to one of the career counselors. Check out some of the Navy trades... Sigs, NCS Eng, MS Eng, MARS... depending on your degree to you should look into EME too. Best of luck though!! Hope everything works out. If I were in your situation, see if you can still go for your original trade choices, and just throw in one or two more that your interested in in case you don't make the cut for your first choices... I put Infantry down as a third choice not because I wanted a sure bet or something, but I wanted a trade I know I would still enjoy and be more than happy to serve as, but also one that would have some openings that I would be competitive for with my degree, background, and interests. Sometimes the process gets frustrating, but in the end, it will be worth it.
 
So I just finished my update interview and my military potential went up! The Captain who interviewed me said I definitely improved from my last interview. I'm that much more competitive now. Needless to say, I'm pretty happy! haha. But I'd better get to class though. Cheers.
 
Thanks Murch, I will look at those trades in depth.  That is exactly the problem, even though I may be qualified for certain trades, that certainly doesn't mean I'm going to like the trade.  I want to look forward to work everyday.  :)
 
TFLY said:
  I want to look forward to work everyday.

I agree -- I think that is the right attitude to come in with... I think they can pick up on it in the interview process as well -- if you're joining because you really want to serve, or if your going ROTP for the benefits. Lets face it -- we stand to benefit a lot, but at the end of the day, you don't belong in the forces if you can't see the good of what you will be doing and can't find enjoyment in the specific trade. Cheers, best of luck!
 
So I went for my CFAT and interview today. Went very well! ;D

I'm pretty confident that I'm going to get in, but I'm not sure just yet, and I won't know for a while. Still, good to have everything done!
 
Hi all,
I have applied to RMC and had my application, medical, and CFAT completed before the deadline last week and am fairly certain my results have been sent to RMC to be processed. I only have a slight problem; while doing the medical last week the medic told me that my hearing was slightly off so I decided to go to a specialist and have them test my hearing as well. The results from this test confirmed that my hearing was actually above average. If I present these results to the recruiting center is there any way they could have them to RMC before the selection board starts? And if they can't would the blotched hearing test play a large part in determining whether or not I will be accepted to RMC?
 
IMPOSTER!

The pod people are coming!  The pod people are coming!
 
So today I received news that I never wanted to hear. A Captain from my recruiting center called and told me that I did not even make the initial "cap" for ROTP Pilot this year. I guess all of the applicants are given a score based on their CFAT, interview, and school marks. She said I was really close but didn't make the cap. Unfortunately volunteer hours and sports are only looked at AFTER the initial score they give you. So although my extra-curriculars were phenomenal it means nothing since I didn't make the cut. So a full year after applying I was told I was not good enough. I'm still shocked it ended so sudden after a year of waiting.  I'm completely crushed...this was my dream.
 
Hey Dou You, I'm very sorry to hear that.

I know my experience isn't exactly the same as yours but I felt the same way when I failed my ASC. However, on my way home in the bus I asked myself a simple question. "Do I want to become a Pilot? or do I still want to become an Officer in the CF?" Well I answered 'Yes' to the latter and I decided to continue my application with different trades(Not that I just randomly chose the new trades, I really put time and effort to find what would be right for me).

Take a walk. Go have a drink. Go out for a run and maybe when you have a moment, try asking yourself the very same question like I mentioned above.

It's not the end -- others would probably tell you the same thing. Don't ever take this 'experience' in a way that would make you think you're not good enough. Instead, let's just say that you can be better. Like your quote says, don't quit. I know this is my second year just putting in applications for ROTP as well. If this is what you really want, give it another shot.

Trust me, there is a way.

Best of luck my friend :)
 
Dou You said:
So today I received news that I never wanted to hear. A Captain from my recruiting center called and told me that I did not even make the initial "cap" for ROTP Pilot this year. I guess all of the applicants are given a score based on their CFAT, interview, and school marks. She said I was really close but didn't make the cap. Unfortunately volunteer hours and sports are only looked at AFTER the initial score they give you. So although my extra-curriculars were phenomenal it means nothing since I didn't make the cut. So a full year after applying I was told I was not good enough. I'm still shocked it ended so sudden after a year of waiting.  I'm completely crushed...this was my dream.


I would recommend that you continue with your ROTP app, put other Air Force trades -- Air Log... Air Nav. etc. Even if you get an Air Force trade that doesn't require Air Crew Selection which is in need, just try to get in your desired trades element. You can at least get up to phase 3 training and not have to redo anything later. Apply for a remuster once your grades are better. Best of luck.
 
Dou You: Don't be completely crushed yet.  Selections will continue until all of the positions are filled (ie. you could get a call in August, if someone backs out) but worst case right now is you don't make it this year.

You weren't told you were "unsuitable for employment", you just didn't make it this time.  Now is when your character shows.  Do you give up and walk away forever?  Try again next year, after finding ways to improve your score? 

Your life = your choice.

The air force motto, "Per Ardua ad Astra" means "Through Adversity to the Stars"  Take from it what you will, but I see it as a personal challenge.
 
Thank you for the insight everyone. I took everything mentioned to heart and appreciate it very much. Although my post may have seemed like I was giving up, that is not the case at all. I had just received the call right before the post and probably should have waited until I cooled down to post (like right now), but I assure you I will not give up. I was just frustrated because this was my second year applying, and I believed that it was my last shot. This is because I am in second year right now and by selections next year I will be in 3rd year, leaving only 1 full year of subsidization which is below the minimum of 1.5 years. However the Captain did say I was eligible to apply again next year, but I don't know if this was just a mistake, or if it is the truth. I will be calling her tomorrow with many questions. But no matter what, I know I want to be a Pilot in the CF. Although I have explored many of my options as you suggested gwones, I would not be satisfied by giving up an opportunity at Pilot by taking an offer of a different trade. Therefore I will not be applying for ROTP for any other trade this year and will hopefully be able to try for ROTP Pilot next year. Pilot is all I want, it's all I have ever wanted, and will continue to be what I strive for. I will never give up, and I know one day I will be flying in the CF. Good luck to all other ROTP applicants the rest of the way.

D Y
 
That's good to hear Dou You. Some people choose to go with other options, some don't and I completely understand and respect your opinion. More than anything, I wish you best of luck.

Good news will come :)

 
Dou You, did they say that they aren't accepting anymore pilots at all? as in all the spots were already filled? I applied for Air Eng RMC, but my best friend applied for pilot but they cant seem to process his file fast enough last year he had a medical delay and this year he's had to fill out the forms 5 times(not exaggerating) all he has left is the interview but they keep losing his files/or always something. I'm just hoping he makes it on to the list.
 
Sorry to hear that Dou You, I received similar news as well. They said my application isn't very competitive, I can still go for it, but the chances that I'd make it are very slim. They said I would have a much better chance at Aerospace Control Officer. I talked it over with my parents, and the idea grew on me, so I decided it was fine to change it to Aerospace Control. I figured that I'd still be serving for the CF, AND I'd get a great education from RMC, sounds like a winning situation!  :nod:

Only thing I'm confused about is the fact that they are telling us to apply for certain MOCs already, aren't they supposed to do that at the end of our first year? Aren't they only supposed to fit us into an element right now? What the heck is going on!

Now I see you guys writing some things about remustering into pilot, which is something I'd like to try for. When is the best time to attempt for remustering?
 
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