SAR Tech

[kj_gully]

Not to say that the recruit office is the only place a plar can be done. I am not sure about Paramedicine, but I know that various regulatory bodies will (for a fee) review certification and experience and grant equivalency.

 

[codeblue20]

Unfortunately I am currently living in Toronto, and its the middle of health science mid-terms... although I may be out west this summer at some point.

If you know of anyone to contact in Toronto, or Ontario for that matter please let me know... or any info/career fairs!

Thanks a bunch.

 

[kj_gully]

PM me, and I will look into it...

The date for the career info in Edmonton is March 4 and Wainwright is actually March 5, I was wrong yesterday, and have editted my original post

 

[Future Prodigy]

Count on the MCpl's to set you straight (well done PPCLI)...

I would say that SAR tech and JTF operators are both special forces on opposite sides of the coin. In both you'd have to opportunity to do cool extreme sport-like things (Parachuting, diving, rock work, rappelling) and be physically and mentally challenged in ways only those in military service can be. One big difference, IMHO is "gun play". As mentioned above SAR, being predominately domestic, have no req to work with weapons.

One thing not mentioned here is the Medical Category required. You must have a V2 level of vision and CV1 level of colour vision to qualify. V3 (need to wear glasses or vision more then 50/20) will not allow you to even apply for SAR (hence why Armymedic is still a medic  :'().

I have seen all trades get into SAR, but in the army, MOC's like Cbt engineer (para /cbt diver qualified), and para qualified medics seem to do particularly well.

Does laser eye surgery disqualify you? I was talking to the recruiter about being a pilot and because of the new requirements you are allowed to wear your glasses but were disqualified if you got laser eye surgery.

 

[aesop081]

Does laser eye surgery disqualify you? I was talking to the recruiter about being a pilot and because of the new requirements you are allowed to wear your glasses

There is significantly more ti it that that. Yes glasses are allowed but only within certain parameters. Those parameters are very narrow.

 

[kj_gully]

It won't necessarily rule you out. I Believe (you will need to talk to military medicine on this) there was something come out that laser eye surgery was being studied for non pilot aircrew, as in they were allowing it to see how it worked out. For my trade, I am not sure, since disturbance of night vision is one possible side effect of the surgery. However, it is not up to me to allow or disallow, apply and find out. Found this with a little trolling in the medic forum, confims my initial (pre edit) post:http://www.toronto.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/medical/visreq_e.html says you can be aircrew, not pilot.

 

[Future Prodigy]

kj - im a bit confused by your post. Is there a difference between the various types of SAR techs? (i.e. your non pilot aircrew comment, or was that in relation to the comment i made about pilots?)

It seems many SAR techs come from the infantry, maybe due to the high fitness requirement (?), but is it common for med techs to apply to be SAR techs?

 

[Future Prodigy]

I can't seem to modify my post, maybe its cause of my warning, but i meant to clarify your last post on the laser eye surgery/glasses for SAR techs. Ideally this is the job for me, my dream job - many on hear know of my rants, through negative associations, but i really do want to make a 'difference' in my career choice and SAR techs would fit right up my alley. But i fear that my current eye sight (i must legally wear glasses to drive) will hinder my application, i am however willing to get laser eye surgery if this would be accepted.

 

[kj_gully]

You can wear glasses and still be a SAR Tech. you can have laser surgery and be a SAR Tech. Talk to a recruiter.

Good luck

 

[2fly]

I think what he was getting at by the non-pilot aircrew is that the regular SAR-Tech does not need perfect vision but a pilot needs near perfect.  Mind you, they have changed the pilot standard for fixed wing and hilo so even pilots dont need V1 CV1 any more.

 

[Future Prodigy]

"Qualification Requirements

SAR Techs must be strong team players as well as independent thinkers.  To be selected for SAR Tech training, the applicant must possess a PCP Diploma or Certificate from the following provincial programmes: BC (PCP), AB (EMT-P), SK, (PCP), ON (PCP), NS (PCP), PEI (P-1) as well as an aptitude for learning."

Is this true? From what I've read a lot of infantry and other trades apply for this position... how would they have obtained such qualifications?  Is that not a qualification achieved through civie college programs (paramedic) or through the military via med-tech training? I honestly don't know, so correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[2fly]

You can remuster from a given trade into SAR-Tech.  You do not have to have your EMT-P, etc but it would help if you have atleast EMR since the competition to get into SAR is high.  You don't have to be superman but you should atleast be strong in your given trade, have good reviews (PER) and are working towards your goal (EMR).  Once you have a good PER, have your EMR and a good recommendation from your CO, you should not have any problem.

 

[Zoomie]

The requirement for PCP training is for direct-entry SARTechs. 

Those who attempt the remuster will be trained as required.

 

[Kid_X]

If you have access to a military network, and want information on SAR Tech, I would recommended this link:
http://winnipeg.mil.ca/A3SAR/personnel/sartech/sartech_e.htm

I am highly interested in pursuing SAR Tech as a career, although I have to wait a while due to the Minimum Military Experience required: 48 months for AVOTP. I was still interested in communicating with anyone here that may already be SAR Tech. I have questions about the profession itself, postings, family, qualifications that could help in the selection process, etc.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

If you have access to a military network, and want information on SAR Tech, I would recommended this link:
http://winnipeg.mil.ca/A3SAR/personnel/sartech/sartech_e.htm

I am highly interested in pursuing SAR Tech as a career, although I have to wait a while due to the Minimum Military Experience required: 48 months for AVOTP. I was still interested in communicating with anyone here that may already be SAR Tech. I have questions about the profession itself, postings, family, qualifications that could help in the selection process, etc.

Thank you for your time.

More specific, remuster SAR Tech applicants will be applying via the COTP program.  CFAO 11-12 refers:

http://admfincs.mil.ca/admfincs/subjects/cfao/011-12_e.asp

 

[Future Prodigy]

Out of fear of getting the "use the search function" response, I once again re-read this entire thread but did not find the answer to the question floating in my head. What trade/moc (is that the correct term?) do the majority of applications come from - I remember reading earlier that the army guys faired well on the PT but tended to not do so well on the academic part, but there was nothing else?

Initially, i thought that the majority of applications would be med-techs... but this doesn't seem to be the case?

 

[Zoomie]

A majority of the boys/gals in Orange do come from a combat arms trade.  I have seen AVN techs, Med-A, JTF-2 assaulters, infantry, armoured, etc.

 

[Future Prodigy]

is there a reason you don't see a lot of med techs? (I'm trying to conceptualize why this is so)

 

[Blackadder1916]

is there a reason you don't see a lot of med techs? (I'm trying to conceptualize why this is so)

Why should Med Tech be a prime source of applicants for SAR Tech?  You may have a misconception about the primary selection requirements for each trade.  Historically, there may have been greater numbers of Med As in the "Rescue Specialist" field when RS was not a separate trade but a special duty available primarily to selected RCAF (and subsequently CF) trades such as medical assistant, safety systems tech and a few other trades; eventually the trades it was open to widened to include all and then in the late 70s it became a separate trade. 

But look at the selection requirements.  Though there is a needed ability to learn certain medical skills, in most cases you can teach those to any shaved monkey as long as he is ready to learn.  The hardest part of the selection and training process for SAR Tech is meeting the fitness standards.  While you can find suitable candidates in most any trade, you will probably find a greater concentration of members able to meet those fitness standards (and willing to put up with the bag drive) in infantry units; it is not just coincidental that soldiers who enjoying jumping from planes as a means to get to work may also enjoy the thrill aspects of SAR.

 

[Future Prodigy]

blackadder1916 -  I understand your point but it does not help to answer the question, of why there is not as many med-techs applying. Are they restricted from applying due to their 6 year contract?