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Ostrozac

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cupper said:
It also clears up the mystery of the civilian - the article says civilian fitness instructor.

I didn't know that we were employing PSP civilians on warships. I must have missed that addition to the fleet. How long has that been going on?
 

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Ostrozac said:
I didn't know that we were employing PSP civilians on warships. I must have missed that addition to the fleet. How long has that been going on?

They only allow PSP on ships if they look like this:

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Ostrozac

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Humphrey Bogart said:
They only allow PSP on ships if they look like this:

Your Cheech and Chong reference is well taken. Safety-sensitive drug testing, as written, is specifically directed at members of the Canadian Forces -- but since we are using civilians on the battlespace, should we also be testing NPF employees and civil service personnel to see if they are, to use a technical term, "rocking the gange"?
 

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Ostrozac said:
Your Cheech and Chong reference is well taken. Safety-sensitive drug testing, as written, is specifically directed at members of the Canadian Forces -- but since we are using civilians on the battlespace, should we also be testing NPF employees and civil service personnel to see if they are, to use a technical term, "rocking the gange"?

The problem with a drug such as cocaine, which it's been speculated was what they were arrested for, is that it leaves the body very quickly (72hrs) so it's almost impossible to catch people with drug testing.

These folks could be looking at a 5 year jail sentence if they're found guilty.  Japan has an extremely high conviction rate for these sorts of incidents.  Just speculating but they were probably caught red-handed in the act. 

Also, Mr Lawson wasn't charged but his CoC and possibly the NIS will probably be asking him some very tough questions concerning his "hobbies" and who his "friends" are?
 

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Humphrey Bogart said:
Also, Mr Lawson wasn't charged but his CoC and possibly the NIS will probably be asking him some very tough questions concerning his "hobbies" and who his "friends" are?

His father will probably also have some words with him - likely not as complimentary as that given at his ACSO grad parade.
http://www.thevoxair.ca/Issues/2013/VoxairIssue09_2013.pdf
 

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So capt jack lawson is an ACSO. What rank and trade is Ian Greenwood?



https://www.facebook.com/rcaf1924/posts/10153185651226237:0
 

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So nobody else has ever just plain old been in the wrong place at the wrong time?
 

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Why does the navy have a civilian fitness instructor on a warship?
 

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The fat guy that proved his lack of PT was the Navy's fault made the RCN leadership place one there?
 
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They have been embarked on ships on deployment for some time now.  Just like they were in KAF.  Same reasons.

 

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And the reason we can't have military personnel to perform this function as a secondary duty?
 
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dapaterson said:
And the reason we can't have military personnel to perform this function as a secondary duty?
The amount of classes and training that PSP fitness instructors bring to the ship could not be matched by a "secondary duty" person.  You have enough on your plate as it is at sea without that.

Besides, you seem hell bent on turning everything over to civilians anyhow.  Why not this?
 

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jollyjacktar said:
The amount of classes and training that PSP fitness instructors bring to the ship could not be matched by a "secondary duty" person.  You have enough on your plate as it is at sea without that.

Besides, you seem hell bent on turning everything over to civilians anyhow.  Why not this?

If you can't see the difference between core combat functions (ships at sea) and support at home (PMQs and CANEX)...

 
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dapaterson said:
If you can't see the difference between core combat functions (ships at sea) and support at home (PMQs and CANEX)...

and if you can't see sarcasm...
 

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winnipegoo7 said:
to lead fitness training

The Navy can't take an NCO and designate them a full time fitness coordinator?  Does a civilian bartender run the mess on the ship as well?
 
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