Some of the bought & paid for media

[RangerRay]

In a lot of ways it’s many journalists being fish unaware that they’re in water. Many of them now come from the same place, go to the same schools and have the same upbringing that they don’t know they’re different and unaware of how they come across to others not in their milieu.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Most journalists are completely aware of where and what they are. They don't need years of schooling to understand that opinion journalism is about shaping public opinions, and it's easy to observe how many try to be opinion journalists.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Unpeeling Team Blue's "defund the CBC" thing ....

With Conservatives promising to 'defund,' could the next election kill the CBC?

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is sticking to his promise to “defund” the CBC if his party forms the next government.

www.cp24.com

... with this Toronto Sun's take from Poilievre's Christmas break interview with them

LILLEY: Yes, thankfully, Poilievre will defund CBC

Pierre Poilievre says you can count on him to defund CBC if he is elected prime minister.

torontosun.com

Specificially, on the pulling $1B, from the Sun piece ....

It'll be interesting to see if QC really does go to a separation referendum because, if the last Yes-No campaign behaviour is repeated, PP & Co. is going to find out that (according to a number of friends of mine who listened and for whom French is a first language) that Radio-Canada leans way into the separatist camp.

Mind you, if the secession vote comes, and if they see the beheaded CBC in the building next to them as promised, who knows?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Unpeeling Team Blue's "defund the CBC" thing ....

With Conservatives promising to 'defund,' could the next election kill the CBC?

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is sticking to his promise to “defund” the CBC if his party forms the next government.

www.cp24.com

... with this Toronto Sun's take from Poilievre's Christmas break interview with them

LILLEY: Yes, thankfully, Poilievre will defund CBC

Pierre Poilievre says you can count on him to defund CBC if he is elected prime minister.

torontosun.com

Specificially, on the pulling $1B, from the Sun piece ....
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It'll be interesting to see if QC really does go to a separation referendum because, if the last Yes-No campaign behaviour is repeated, PP & Co. is going to find out that (according to a number of friends of mine who listened and for whom French is a first language) that Radio-Canada leans way into the separatist camp.

Mind you, if the secession vote comes, and if they see the beheaded CBC in the building next to them as promised, who knows?

The Line podcast recently talked about another referendum. I'm not sure the rest of Canada will fight as hard to keep them.

 

[ModlrMike]

Journalism is perhaps the only occupation where you don't NEED to know anything about the subject your discussing, and it appears that most journalists don't.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Journalism is perhaps the only occupation where you don't NEED to know anything about the subject your discussing, and it appears that most journalists don't.

As a former member of the reporter cult myself, I think that may be a bit simplistic

Classically trained journalists are supposed to be educated in broad strokes about how government, courts and public institutions operate so they can go in and figure out what’s happening in those institutions. They’re also supposed to learn a system to allow them to quickly get information on something they don’t know to allow them to prepare a summary that’s reasonably close to reality - based on what they ask & what they’re told.

Yeah, I’ve seen reporters blow it missing stuff (guilty as charged myself from time to time). Sources don’t say everything, reporters new to a file don’t know all the right questions to ask. That said, I’ve also seen bloggers and “citizen journalists” who don’t know whazzup write or podcast about stuff & have people take their word as gospel only because they’re not MSM.

I’ve also seen experts who know a metric shit tonne about a subject not be able to explain something in a way real people understand.

So which will it be: people who know nothing but are generally quick studies for a layperson’s take, people who know things exhaustively that can’t explain things in a way real people understand?

Also realize these are platonic ideals, but this is how it’s supposed to work.

 

[Jarnhamar]

What are two of the most accurate but unbiased media outlets covering content in Canada?

 

[The Bread Guy]

What are two of the most accurate but unbiased media outlets covering content in Canada?

If you're asking me, The Canadian Press tends to take a middle of the road on Canadian coverage (in the interests of full disclosure, it's now owned by TorStar, the Globe & Mail and La Presse).

Real-time Canada/National Newsfeed | The Canadian Press

Publish real-time national news to your properties. Our national newsfeed includes up-to-the minute articles, photos and videos in English and in French.

www.thecanadianpress.com

After that, admittedly I switch back & forth between right-ish sources (National Post/Sun Media/Financial Post) and left-ish sources (Globe, Tor Star). They're not unbiased, either end of the scale, but they're also all getting some of that sweet, sweet federal media money, so they're all equally subject to being considered "bought & paid for".

Caveat: as to "accuracy", all these outlets I suspect do their best given their shrinking reporting resources, but they do publish corrections - usually not as prominently as the original stories, though.

CBC? May be accurate re: the facts they report, but you can tell they're wearing (or at least the decision makers who drive the coverage in the newsroom) a certain pair of glasses.

Sorry I couldn't make it clean, cut & dried

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

What are two of the most accurate but unbiased media outlets covering content in Canada?

 

[The Bread Guy]

And this from "Yes, Prime Minister" on the UK media

 

[RangerRay]

If you're asking me, The Canadian Press tends to take a middle of the road on Canadian coverage (in the interests of full disclosure, it's now owned by TorStar, the Globe & Mail and La Presse).

Real-time Canada/National Newsfeed | The Canadian Press

Publish real-time national news to your properties. Our national newsfeed includes up-to-the minute articles, photos and videos in English and in French.

www.thecanadianpress.com

After that, admittedly I switch back & forth between right-ish sources (National Post/Sun Media/Financial Post) and left-ish sources (Globe, Tor Star). They're not unbiased, either end of the scale, but they're also all getting some of that sweet, sweet federal media money, so they're all equally subject to being considered "bought & paid for".

Caveat: as to "accuracy", all these outlets I suspect do their best given their shrinking reporting resources, but they do publish corrections - usually not as prominently as the original stories, though.

CBC? May be accurate re: the facts they report, but you can tell they're wearing (or at least the decision makers who drive the coverage in the newsroom) a certain pair of glasses.

Sorry I couldn't make it clean, cut & dried

I’d say that while the Globe has a more “establishment” or “boardroom” bias, they are far from biased towards the Liberals, especially the last few years.

It turns out they don’t like prairie populists or socialist revolutionaries.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I’d say that while the Globe has a more “establishment” or “boardroom” bias, they are far from biased towards the Liberals, especially the last few years.

It turns out they don’t like prairie populists or socialist revolutionaries.

Old timey term could also be "pro big business," although that may not fit perfectly, either.

Meanwhile, Google's paid its $100M ....

Google sends funds to journalism collective in exchange for Online News Act exemption

Google has sent the $100 million it agreed to pay Canadian news outlets in exchange for an exemption from the Online News Act to a journalism organization designed to distribute

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

... and CBC says they'll be hiring 30 new reporters with their $7M share

CBC using Google compensation payout to boost local news coverage with 30 new hires

CBC News is planning to boost coverage in nearly two dozen underserved communities across Canada by hiring up to 30 permanent journalists.

www.cp24.com

Let's see how the rest trickles down, shall we?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Unpeeling Team Blue's "defund the CBC" thing ....

With Conservatives promising to 'defund,' could the next election kill the CBC?

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is sticking to his promise to “defund” the CBC if his party forms the next government.

www.cp24.com

... with this Toronto Sun's take from Poilievre's Christmas break interview with them

LILLEY: Yes, thankfully, Poilievre will defund CBC

Pierre Poilievre says you can count on him to defund CBC if he is elected prime minister.

torontosun.com

Specificially, on the pulling $1B, from the Sun piece ....
View attachment 90426
It'll be interesting to see if QC really does go to a separation referendum because, if the last Yes-No campaign behaviour is repeated, PP & Co. is going to find out that (according to a number of friends of mine who listened and for whom French is a first language) that Radio-Canada leans way into the separatist camp.

Mind you, if the secession vote comes, and if they see the beheaded CBC in the building next to them as promised, who knows?

If there is another referendum on Quebec sovereignty, it should be a national referendum. Every Canadian has a stake in the cohesion/ tearing up of the confederation.

And before any referendum happens the ground rules need to be agreed and cemented. Who's money does the country of Quebec use? Who owns that section of the St Lawrence? How will the ON/QC/NB border work? What kind of trade deal are we going to have? How much of the province can First Nations claim as sovereign?

Lots of stuff to do before they say "see ya."