Something I noticed on Wikipedia (LAV IIIs)

[DirtyDog]

In addition to generic criticisms from the choice of wheels over tracks, critics claim there are many flaws with the Stryker. They also caution that any positive testimonial must be evaluated against the fact that five of the six planned Stryker brigades were previously foot-infantry units, hence the Stryker (or any armored vehicle) provides a great improvement on their former mobility and protection. Further, Iraq's many paved roads and very dry climate make a number of criticisms less significant in the current conflict yet no less valid overall. However, Canadians have had quite a bit of trouble with the LAV IIIs (which the Stryker is based on) getting stuck in the mud in Afghanistan and rolling over

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker

I've searched around here, including the FAQs, Wiki, and Armour section, but how much credence can a statement like that be given ("quite a bit of trouble")?

I do not know a whole lot about LAVIIIs or how things are going with them in Afghanistan, but I was under the assumption most people were quite happy with their performance? 

Just curious mostly and I felt maybe someone could take issue with that statement.

 

[DirtyDog]

well, I just noticed this reference on the Wikipedia page that adds some insight, but I was wonderign what people around here think.

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/ft-lav3rollover.htm

 

[GAP]

They are no different than any other vehicle driving on very narrow roadways, fording, edging along wadi's, crossing narrow bridges meant for carts, etc. Do it enough, push the limits and a couple are going to go topsy turvy....probably happened to every type of vehicle out there driven to the max.

 

[DirtyDog]

They are no different than any other vehicle driving on very narrow roadways, fording, edging along wadi's, crossing narrow bridges meant for carts, etc. Do it enough, push the limits and a couple are going to go topsy turvy....probably happened to every type of vehicle out there driven to the max.

  Are they getting "stuck in the mud" all that much though?

 

[George Wallace]

  Are they getting "stuck in the mud" all that much though?

Once you have reached the stage of Trg that will permit you to go into the Field in a Vehicle, any vehicle, you will find out that everything gets stuck in the mud sooner or later. 

 

[Gunner98]

Once you have reached the stage of Trg that will permit you to go into the Field in a Vehicle, any vehicle, you will find out that everything gets stuck in the mud sooner or later. 

George:
Agreed, it is always matter of how much the vehicle you are in weighs and how much mud you think you can drive through.  Winches on all types of recovery vehicles earn their keep.

 

[Dissident]

Where is the picture of that Leopard stuck in a marsh?

 

[DirtyDog]

I guess I'm just wondering if this percieved notion that LAV IIIs are prone to getting stuck easily in Afghanistan has any merit.

 

[George Wallace]

Where is the picture of that Leopard stuck in a marsh?

:


Probably under the Wikipedia (Leopard 1s) page.......

 

[George Wallace]

I guess I'm just wondering if this percieved notion that LAV IIIs are prone to getting stuck easily in Afghanistan has any merit.

No.

 

[Dissident]

Probably under the Wikipedia (Leopard 1s) page.......

Nope. I was looking for the one that was on army.ca. Just to show that any veh can get stuck, if you try hard enough.

 

[Shamrock]

Where is the picture of that Leopard stuck in a marsh?

 

[Timmy!]

Romeo?

 

[Bzzliteyr]

Did you mean... "Marco!?!?"


"Polo"

Just so no one makes the mistake, that is NOT a Canadian Leo.  Danish I'd say.. full piece crew helmet, the paint scheme (what I can see of it) and the rear turret bustle are the giveaways for me, anyone else care to specualte?

 

[aesop081]

Just so no one makes the mistake, that is NOT a Canadian Leo.

I dont know if i trust your "recce eyes" after the whole laundry bag cow tag incident  ;D

 

[Shamrock]

I speculate the photo is old.

 

[Royal605]

its the older turret on the leo and that was in gagetown.

 

[aesop081]

"Yes it is....no it isnt...yes it is....no it isnt....i know you are but what am i ?"

I see where this is going..... :

 

[Bzzliteyr]

Royal.. I am a tanker.. I have been one for 12 years.. I know what the older turret looks like.. and yes that does look like gagetown but the modified turret bins we put on did not have a welded area to them.  And I just noticed the bore brush bin is on the left side of the turret.  I am trying to go back in my head and googling but I don't remember us having them there.  Oh and the "hoffman device" to my knowledge, was never used in Canada.  We had simcans back the C1 days.

 

[vonGarvin]

Tanker shmanker....you're a GIB now.....so get in the back and shut up


Oh, wait, you just finished (or are finishing up) AGIC....so....whoops!