Terrorist Deathwatch: Yasser Arafat
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Pennies I'd imagine.
They're backed by enough oil-rich countries they mightn't be too worried about Arafats personal wealthy, i know in particular Qureia is a rich lad himself.
I think they're more worried that she'll attempt to carry on with Arafats personal agenda and try and gain some kind of real power.
They're backed by enough oil-rich countries they mightn't be too worried about Arafats personal wealthy, i know in particular Qureia is a rich lad himself.
I think they're more worried that she'll attempt to carry on with Arafats personal agenda and try and gain some kind of real power.
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When you think about it, all they would have to do is walk in......*quick smoke*.....walk out and say Yasser said that we are to take his spot/ wealth and unless she had the "secret access" , she would be down the road kickin' stones.
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Maybe she's just afraid that the PA might claim some of his multibillion dollar estate and/or stop the $100,000/month payment she's been getting for, uh, appearing at fashion shows 'n' stuff ...
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I saw one article today suggesting he is personally worth 1Billion dollars, all squirrelled away in various accounts all over the world and all his account numbers were held in his head.
Not a good place to have them stored if you are in a coma or suffer a stroke.
The PLO may end up having to go to the CIA to find out where all the money is.
The Universe is such and ironic place.
Cheers.
Article in today's National Post....
Not a good place to have them stored if you are in a coma or suffer a stroke.
The PLO may end up having to go to the CIA to find out where all the money is.
The Universe is such and ironic place.
Cheers.
Article in today's National Post....
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I saw the same quote Kirkhill, isn't that disgusting.
To think he could have done so much more than just squirrel it away.
The world isn't just ironic it's sick.
To add again, there are a number of conflicting reports regarding Abu Ammars health now some saying he is already dead others saying he is hours from death others talking about a brain hemmorage. I won't bother posting them because there's too many different agencies posting different things. I figured it was notable just because they've been saying there's no change in his condition up until recently today.
Ambiguous but indicative of the situation:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6761895
To think he could have done so much more than just squirrel it away.
The world isn't just ironic it's sick.
To add again, there are a number of conflicting reports regarding Abu Ammars health now some saying he is already dead others saying he is hours from death others talking about a brain hemmorage. I won't bother posting them because there's too many different agencies posting different things. I figured it was notable just because they've been saying there's no change in his condition up until recently today.
Ambiguous but indicative of the situation:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6761895
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Che, that link doesn't seem to work ... "no longer available"
This is from last year:
... Europe -- the PA's main financial backer -- wants to know what happened to the $US5.5 billion in international aid that has flowed in Arafat's direction since the PA was established in 1994
The West Bank war horse's image is not helped when publications such as Forbes magazine feature the 74-year-old prominently on its list of most wealthy "King, Queens and Despots".
Forbes calculates that Arafat, who comes in sixth behind Queen Elizabeth II, has a net worth of $US300billion. Some Israelis believe Arafat's personal wealth may be as much as $US11 billion, although in testimony to the Knesset last year Israel's chief of military intelligence Aharon Zeevi listed his personal assets at more than $US1.3 billion. <http://www.mafhoum.com/press6/171E19.htm>
I've read elsewhere that one of the PLO's (or PA's) former finance guy, estimated control of the PA to be worth another $6-or-so billion USD.
I think was a huge mistake to allow Arafat to continue to 'represent' the Palestinians ...
This is from last year:
... Europe -- the PA's main financial backer -- wants to know what happened to the $US5.5 billion in international aid that has flowed in Arafat's direction since the PA was established in 1994
The West Bank war horse's image is not helped when publications such as Forbes magazine feature the 74-year-old prominently on its list of most wealthy "King, Queens and Despots".
Forbes calculates that Arafat, who comes in sixth behind Queen Elizabeth II, has a net worth of $US300billion. Some Israelis believe Arafat's personal wealth may be as much as $US11 billion, although in testimony to the Knesset last year Israel's chief of military intelligence Aharon Zeevi listed his personal assets at more than $US1.3 billion. <http://www.mafhoum.com/press6/171E19.htm>
I've read elsewhere that one of the PLO's (or PA's) former finance guy, estimated control of the PA to be worth another $6-or-so billion USD.
I think was a huge mistake to allow Arafat to continue to 'represent' the Palestinians ...
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Che,
this is NOT to be contentious, but could it not be argued that it was not in Abu Ammar's interests, nor the PA/PLO's interest to do anything with the money other than put it away. One of their greatest weapons was the discontent of the Palestinians, surely. If the Palestinians had seen their circumstances improve as a result of foreign aid, especially US aid, if they had seen stores, farms and factories open, the airport and the port open and start employing people, would the community at large have been able to sustain the level of rage it has over a period of 60 years. In other words do prosperous peoples revolt? Not the odd individual but the main body?
Conversely, if the community now sees that Arafat and his cronies, including people he associated with like Hezbollah, will they be able to trust any of those groups in power? Will those groups continue to be able to dominate the society by force of arms and intimidation?
this is NOT to be contentious, but could it not be argued that it was not in Abu Ammar's interests, nor the PA/PLO's interest to do anything with the money other than put it away. One of their greatest weapons was the discontent of the Palestinians, surely. If the Palestinians had seen their circumstances improve as a result of foreign aid, especially US aid, if they had seen stores, farms and factories open, the airport and the port open and start employing people, would the community at large have been able to sustain the level of rage it has over a period of 60 years. In other words do prosperous peoples revolt? Not the odd individual but the main body?
Conversely, if the community now sees that Arafat and his cronies, including people he associated with like Hezbollah, will they be able to trust any of those groups in power? Will those groups continue to be able to dominate the society by force of arms and intimidation?
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Kirkhill, it sounds like you are describing the Oil-for-Food disaster in Iraq ...
Anyway, the BBC is reporting that Arafat has a brain haemorrhage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3994667.stm
Anyway, the BBC is reporting that Arafat has a brain haemorrhage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3994667.stm
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Well I do agree with you in some resepects kirkhill but I think in a Hegelian sense (Corrrect me if I'm totally bastardizing the philosophy) Arafat was neccessary.
I doubt they would have been much better off had he let the money he was skimming(?) off the top flow through. I would wager he'd probably taken years of a little cash here and there and of course he's got buddies all over Arabia, rich buddies who would've sent him gifts.
Or maybe he's just that thrify ;D
I doubt they would have been much better off had he let the money he was skimming(?) off the top flow through. I would wager he'd probably taken years of a little cash here and there and of course he's got buddies all over Arabia, rich buddies who would've sent him gifts.
Or maybe he's just that thrify ;D
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Are you trying to suggest that Arafat was Scots? Oh now you have take racial stereotyping to new lows.
As to the Hegelian reference perhaps you could clue me in, I don't know much about him other than what that bunch of Bruces from Australia taught me when they were talking about Aristotle and his bottle. (Sorry couldn't resist - love Monty Python). Seriously though could you explain yourself a bit clearer for me?
Cheers.
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You know I'm not even sure I'm thinking of the right philosophy Kirkhill, it was just the first one that came to my head. I hate philosophy for the most part, so it's all kind of muddled together.
Predetermined movement of things, there are no chance occurences, so Arafats not good but he's a part of the larger picture moving towards an end...
Not entirely Hegelian...
You know what, I have no idea.
And now back to Arafat. ;D
Predetermined movement of things, there are no chance occurences, so Arafats not good but he's a part of the larger picture moving towards an end...
Not entirely Hegelian...
You know what, I have no idea.
And now back to Arafat. ;D
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CBC just reported on the 11 'o clock news he died.
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From CNN,
Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat died early Thursday at a French military hospital where he was being treated for a blood disorder, Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said. Arafat, 75, was taken to the suburban Paris hospital nearly two weeks ago for treatment. He had been on a respirator since slipping into a coma November 3. A hospital spokesman said he died at 9:30 p.m. Wednesday ET.
Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat died early Thursday at a French military hospital where he was being treated for a blood disorder, Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said. Arafat, 75, was taken to the suburban Paris hospital nearly two weeks ago for treatment. He had been on a respirator since slipping into a coma November 3. A hospital spokesman said he died at 9:30 p.m. Wednesday ET.
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CNN just updated,
Wednesday, November 10, 2004 Posted: 11:59 PM EST (0459 GMT)
PARIS, France (CNN) -- Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, 75, the leader who passionately sought a homeland for his people but was seen by many Israelis as a ruthless terrorist and a roadblock to peace, died early Thursday in Paris.
Arafat had been sick with an unknown illness that had been variously described as the flu, a stomach virus or gallstones. He flew to Paris nearly two weeks ago seeking medical treatment and was hospitalized with what Palestinian officials said was a blood disorder.
He had been on a respirator since slipping into a coma November 3.
A hospital spokesman said he died at 3:30 a.m. Thursday (9:30 p.m. Wednesday ET).
Arafat's body will be taken from France to Cairo, where the Egyptian government will host a state funeral for him, Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said.
He will be buried outside the Palestinian Authority headquarters compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah -- a resting place Erakat called temporary.
"One day, we will have our own independent state with east Jerusalem as its capital," Erakat said.
Israel forbade Arafat's burial in Jerusalem, which it has controlled since 1967.
For five decades, Arafat -- adorned with his trademark checkered kaffiyeh -- was the most prominent face of Palestinian opposition to Israel and the push for a Palestinian state, first as the head of the Palestine Liberation Organization, which carried out attacks against Israeli targets, and later as the leader of the quasi-governmental Palestinian Authority after parts of the West Bank and Gaza were returned to Palestinian control.
His death leaves no clear immediate successor in the often fractious world of Palestinian politics.
Under the Palestinian Authority's basic law, the speaker of the Palestinian parliament, Rawhi Fattuh, will replace Arafat as Palestinian Authority president on an interim basis, and elections are to be held within 60 days.
During Arafat's illness, Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei has been in charge of the Palestinian Authority, while former Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas has led the Palestine Liberation Organization's executive committee.
The president holds office for five years and can stand for re-election once.
Arafat was first elected head of the PLO in 1969, and by 1974, Arab leaders recognized the group as "the sole legitimate representative" of the Palestinian people.
In 1994, Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, along with Israeli leaders Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres, for their work on the Oslo accords, seen at the time as a breakthrough toward an independent Palestinian state and a permanent peace with Israel. Yet a decade later, Arafat died without seeing his dream of a Palestinian homeland come true.
At a summit at Camp David, Maryland, in 2000, Arafat decided to turn down a U.S.-brokered deal offering Palestinians control of most of the occupied Palestinian territory. Three months later, intense fighting broke out between Palestinians and the Israeli army.
Israel -- in retaliation for increased terrorist attacks on Israeli civilian targets -- severely restricted Arafat's movements, confining him to his West Bank compound in Ramallah in December 2001.
Continuing violence, along with corruption and economic problems, raised questions at home and abroad about Arafat's ability to lead the Palestinian Authority.
In 2003, under pressure from the United States and members of his own Cabinet, Arafat appointed Abbas to the new position of prime minister, a move designed to decentralize power. But Abbas resigned less than six months later, saying he didn't have enough support to do the job.
In July, Arafat announced a program designed to unify security forces and tackle corruption after his frustrated second prime minister, Qorei, also tried to resign.
Arafat is survived by his wife, Suha Tawil, whom he married in 1991, and their daughter, Zahwa, who was born in 1995.
Wednesday, November 10, 2004 Posted: 11:59 PM EST (0459 GMT)
PARIS, France (CNN) -- Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, 75, the leader who passionately sought a homeland for his people but was seen by many Israelis as a ruthless terrorist and a roadblock to peace, died early Thursday in Paris.
Arafat had been sick with an unknown illness that had been variously described as the flu, a stomach virus or gallstones. He flew to Paris nearly two weeks ago seeking medical treatment and was hospitalized with what Palestinian officials said was a blood disorder.
He had been on a respirator since slipping into a coma November 3.
A hospital spokesman said he died at 3:30 a.m. Thursday (9:30 p.m. Wednesday ET).
Arafat's body will be taken from France to Cairo, where the Egyptian government will host a state funeral for him, Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said.
He will be buried outside the Palestinian Authority headquarters compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah -- a resting place Erakat called temporary.
"One day, we will have our own independent state with east Jerusalem as its capital," Erakat said.
Israel forbade Arafat's burial in Jerusalem, which it has controlled since 1967.
For five decades, Arafat -- adorned with his trademark checkered kaffiyeh -- was the most prominent face of Palestinian opposition to Israel and the push for a Palestinian state, first as the head of the Palestine Liberation Organization, which carried out attacks against Israeli targets, and later as the leader of the quasi-governmental Palestinian Authority after parts of the West Bank and Gaza were returned to Palestinian control.
His death leaves no clear immediate successor in the often fractious world of Palestinian politics.
Under the Palestinian Authority's basic law, the speaker of the Palestinian parliament, Rawhi Fattuh, will replace Arafat as Palestinian Authority president on an interim basis, and elections are to be held within 60 days.
During Arafat's illness, Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei has been in charge of the Palestinian Authority, while former Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas has led the Palestine Liberation Organization's executive committee.
The president holds office for five years and can stand for re-election once.
Arafat was first elected head of the PLO in 1969, and by 1974, Arab leaders recognized the group as "the sole legitimate representative" of the Palestinian people.
In 1994, Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, along with Israeli leaders Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres, for their work on the Oslo accords, seen at the time as a breakthrough toward an independent Palestinian state and a permanent peace with Israel. Yet a decade later, Arafat died without seeing his dream of a Palestinian homeland come true.
At a summit at Camp David, Maryland, in 2000, Arafat decided to turn down a U.S.-brokered deal offering Palestinians control of most of the occupied Palestinian territory. Three months later, intense fighting broke out between Palestinians and the Israeli army.
Israel -- in retaliation for increased terrorist attacks on Israeli civilian targets -- severely restricted Arafat's movements, confining him to his West Bank compound in Ramallah in December 2001.
Continuing violence, along with corruption and economic problems, raised questions at home and abroad about Arafat's ability to lead the Palestinian Authority.
In 2003, under pressure from the United States and members of his own Cabinet, Arafat appointed Abbas to the new position of prime minister, a move designed to decentralize power. But Abbas resigned less than six months later, saying he didn't have enough support to do the job.
In July, Arafat announced a program designed to unify security forces and tackle corruption after his frustrated second prime minister, Qorei, also tried to resign.
Arafat is survived by his wife, Suha Tawil, whom he married in 1991, and their daughter, Zahwa, who was born in 1995.
