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Thailand Warming Up ?

George Wallace

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It is interesting to once again see that the majority of Canadians still live their lives in relative calm and total ignorance of what is going on around them.  They feel so safe in their homes and jobs, they ignore what is going on around the World.  911 should have been a wake up call.  The Bali bombings should have reinforced the fact that there are people who do not like our life-style and freedoms here in the 'West'.  The fact that al-Qaeda is training and sponsoring Terrorists around the world is lost on Canadians.  The latest news today will pass into oblivion before the end of the day.  Canadians, just aren't interested in their personal safety or freedoms in their pursuits of their individual dreams.

Today a Canadian was killed in a Terrorist bombing in Thailand.  Terrorism is not contained neatly in places like Afghanistan, Iraq or Palistan; it is World Wide.  www.terrorism is our current threat and perhaps our WW III. 

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/18/security-bombings.html

Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra ordered more security cameras be installed in Thailand's restive south on Monday, and airports around the country tightened security precautions following deadly weekend bombings that killed a Canadian.

Officials held a flurry of meetings Monday to discuss Saturday's bombings in the city of Hat Yai, which killed four people, including Canadian teacher Jessie Lee Daniel, who became the first westerner to die in the Muslim insurgency. The bombings were in a key southern commercial district.
 
We were shopping there a couple of years ago, guess Southern Thailand is off the visit list for awhile.
 
This just in from the BBC:

Tanks appear in Bangkok - reports
Tanks have taken up position around the Thai government headquarters in Bangkok blocking traffic, eyewitnesses have told Reuters news agency.
An army-owned TV station has altered its programming to broadcast images of the royal family and songs associated in the past with military coups.

More soon.



Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/5361008.stm

Published: 2006/09/19 15:23:59 GMT
 
From Reuters:
Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:30am ET
"We called the army for an explanation and the answer was it was troops returning from up-country exercises."
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-09-19T073026Z_01_BKK149619_RTRUKOC_0_US-THAILAND-ARMY.xml&archived=False

True or not, watch and shoot.
 
Dont know if this is the right place to post it. if not move it please.

BANGKOK, Thailand - Thailand's army commmander ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra in a military coup Tuesday night while the prime minister was in New York, circling his offices with tanks, declaring martial law and revoking the constitution. An announcement on national television signed by army Commander-in-Chief Gen. Sondhi Boonyaratkalin ordered all troops to report to their duty stations.

As soldiers and armored vehicles moved through Bangkok, an announcement from the military earlier declared a provisional authority loyal to beloved King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

The announcement declared that a "Council of Administrative Reform" had seized power in Bangkok and nearby provinces without any resistance. It recognized the king as head of state.
 
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060919/thailand_coup_060919/20060919?hub=TopStories

Wow.  I consider myself pretty up to date on world events.  This seemed to come out of nowhere from my perspective.  I knew there were some troubles over there with rebels, etc, but I didn't realize it was so close to a military coup.

(EDIT: Note, my post may imply that the coup was caused by rebel action, that does not appear to be the case.  It would appear to be a reaction to alleged government corruption.  I would suspect that the rebel problems in the south will continue if not get worse.)
 
This coup has the backing of the King. There is considerable unhappiness with the Thaksin government. Evidently civilians are appearing in public in support of the King and are feeding the troops. The last coup in 1991 fell apart when on national TV the King asked for an explanation from the General running the coup. He then told the General to crawl on the floor to apologize to the PM, which he did. Coup was over.

On another forum that I participate in we have a Thai general, one of the few females at that. At present she is involved in the muslim insurgency in the south as part of the 4th Army. It will be interesting to get her take on the coup.
 
warspite said:
It never ceases to amaze me how this sort of thing can happens and we never hear any signs of it until it's over. It's obvious that there has been unrest for some time but it's funny there's no mention of it in the news until now... guess it wasn't considered important enough by the media.

Just look at the "awesome" coverage of the 2nd Chechen war, or the fighting in Ivory Coast for the cutting edge up to the second world coverage from most news agencies
 
tomahawk6 said:
This coup has the backing of the King. There is considerable unhappiness with the Thaksin government. Evidently civilians are appearing in public in support of the King and are feeding the troops. The last coup in 1991 fell apart when on national TV the King asked for an explanation from the General running the coup. He then told the General to crawl on the floor to apologize to the PM, which he did. Coup was over.

On another forum that I participate in we have a Thai general, one of the few females at that. At present she is involved in the muslim insurgency in the south as part of the 4th Army. It will be interesting to get her take on the coup.

It's my understanding that while the army claims to be supported by the King, no one has actually heard from him yet.

BBC says that the Army units involved in the coup support the opposition/are against the PM, but have no indications on the disposition or loyalties of other units.

Of course, my information could be a few hours out of date, given the fluidity of the situation.


Currently available as free content at the Economist website: http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=7938267

Thailand in crisis

Sep 19th 2006 | BANGKOK
From Economist.com
Thailand’s armed forces move against the prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, while he is out of the country

AP/Reuters

RUMOURS of an impending military coup have been circulating in Bangkok for weeks. Until now it was unclear if they were just wishful thinking by opponents of the prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra. He has withstood months of pressure for his resignation, including big street protests earlier this year, over allegations of corruption and abuse of power. However, in the late evening of Tuesday September 19th, a small group of tanks appeared on the Thai capital’s streets, heading for Government House.

Mr Thaksin, apparently blasé about the rumoured unrest, had taken a long foreign trip, and was in New York for the United Nations General Assembly when the tanks rolled. He managed to contact one of Thailand’s television networks to begin broadcasting a declaration imposing a state of emergency in Bangkok. In the broadcast, he also ordered the army’s commander, Sonthi Boonyaratglin, to report to Chidchai Vanasathidya, one of Mr Thaksin’s deputies, in effect relieving General Sonthi of his command.

However, the coup organisers had begun seizing the television stations. Mr Thaksin’s message seemed to be cut off while he was still speaking. Soon all stations were broadcasting a message from a retired lieutenant-general, apparently on behalf of General Sonthi, telling the public that the armed forces were in temporary control but power would be returned “to the people” soon. He said “rampant corruption” and government meddling in independent institutions had prompted the armed forces and police to take over and set up a body to oversee political reforms. An election would follow, in which Mr Thaksin would be allowed to stand.

The plotters’ spokesman also told all soldiers to report to their bases and instructed them not to move except on the army command’s orders. This seemed a clear sign that they feared supporters of Mr Thaksin (a former police colonel) might stage a counter-coup.

The military takeover is the culmination of months of pressure, notably from academics and Bangkok’s middle classes, on Mr Thaksin to go. After his opponents took to the streets, he called a snap election in April, which the main opposition parties boycotted, letting his Thai Rak Thai (TRT) party win a meaningless victory. Nevertheless, the opposition’s boycott had made it impossible to form a quorate parliament. Eventually, Thailand’s revered King Bhumibol urged the country’s judges to sort out the “mess”. The courts called the election unconstitutional, annulled it and, in a separate case, jailed three of the election commissioners who had overseen it. Earlier this month, new commissioners were appointed, clearing the way for a new vote, perhaps in November.

Mr Thaksin had in recent days been keeping everyone guessing on whether he intended to remain prime minister if, as seemed likely, TRT won the new election. The plan seemed to be for the new government to set up a panel of eminent figures to propose big political and constitutional reforms. But now, apparently, the armed forces have decided to pre-empt all this, suspending the constitution and setting up a political-reform body of its own.

Anger at Mr Thaksin’s reported manoeuvrings to get his friends promoted in the annual shuffle of top military brass may have triggered the coup. In late August a junior army officer was arrested near the prime minister’s house, in a car packed with explosives. Mr Thaksin’s critics said he staged the bomb plot to win sympathy from voters—but it might have been a message to the prime minister to stop meddling in military affairs. Some perceived a power struggle between Mr Thaksin and a rival group led by Prem Tinsulanonda, a retired general and former prime minister, who is now the king’s senior adviser. When Mr Thaksin recently complained, cryptically, of a “charismatic figure” seeking to subvert his government, many assumed he meant Mr Prem.

So far Mr Prem has not spoken, but the coup leaders were granted a royal audience on the evening of the coup. Thailand’s last military coup, 15 years ago, was followed by big pro-democracy protests. Suchinda Kraprayoon, the leader of that coup, ordered troops to fire on demonstrators, killing scores of them. After this, the king summoned Suchinda and the protest leader, Chamlong Srimuang, and told them firmly that the violence must stop. Suchinda stepped down and democracy was restored. Since then it had been assumed that Thailand had put its days of frequent coups and unstable government behind it. Such hopes would now seem to have been dashed.
 
OMFG....

Far too scary... I have a friend that is teaching kindergarden in Thailand.  :-\

See, this is why I don't travel.
 
Klc said:
OMFG....

Far too scary... I have a friend that is teaching kindergarden in Thailand.  :-\

See, this is why I don't travel.

They have (emphasis mine):

Posted IAW the fairdealings copyright....

http://www.canadaeast.com/cp/world/#

CP World News

Thailand tightens security after weekend bombing that killed Canadian

SUTIN WANNABOVORN

BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Monday ordered more security cameras be installed in Thailand's restive south, and airports around the country tightened security precautions following deadly weekend bombings in a key southern commercial district.

Officials held a flurry of meetings Monday to discuss Saturday's bombings in the city of Hat Yai, which killed four people, including Canadian teacher Jessie Lee Daniel, who became the first westerner to die in the Muslim insurgency. More than 60 people were wounded, including an American, a Briton, two Malaysians, two Singaporeans and two Indians, officials said.

More bombings and arson attacks occurred Monday in violence-wracked southern Thailand, where a Muslim insurgency has killed more than 1,700 people since 2004. Thaksin, who is in New York for the United Nations General Assembly, told Thai radio that more security cameras would be installed to monitor the movement of suspected insurgents. He did not elaborate. Currently, security cameras are mainly used in private businesses.

Transportation Minister Pongsak Raktapongpaisal said after a meeting with police and other officials that security would be beefed up at airports, particularly Bangkok's new Suvarnabhumi international airport, which is scheduled to open Sept. 28. The National Security Council, during its weekly meeting Monday, discussed the "pros and cons" of expanding an existing state of emergency to cover the province of Songkhla, where Hat Yai is located, said Deputy Prime Minister Chitchai Wannasathit.

The state of emergency now covers Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat provinces - the Buddhist country's three Muslim-majority provinces, where most of the violence has occurred. Emergency rule lets the government impose curfews, prohibit public gatherings, censor and ban publications, detain suspects without charge, confiscate property and tap telephones. Officials are concerned that imposing a state of emergency in Hat Yai - a popular vacation spot for Malaysians, Singaporeans and Indonesians - would devastate the city's economy.

The bombings Saturday hit two department stores, a hotel, a bar and a massage parlour. Hat Yai Mayor Prai Pattano said the city was a "ghost town" Monday. He predicted the attacks would significantly damage its tourism industry, which was already suffering from the violence. The attacks came three weeks after 22 banks were bombed simultaneously in nearby Yala province, forcing the temporary closure of many financial institutions.

The Thai intelligence chief, police Gen. Jumpol Manmai, said the weekend attacks showed that Muslim insurgents want to damage the region's economy, but that authorities don't believe other parts of the country are threatened. "We do not believe the attacks will expand to other regions but we are being careful, we are being cautious everywhere," Jumpol Manmai, who heads the National Intelligence Agency, told The Associated Press. "The attack on trade, business centres and tourist towns is aimed at weakening the economy and undermining the reputation of the country," he said.

Authorities were searching for a suspect, identified as Faisal Isamahae, believed to have masterminded Saturday's attacks as well as a bombing last year at Hat Yai's international airport that killed two people, Jumpol said. A wave of attacks occurred Monday in Narathiwat province, but no casualties were reported.

A homemade bomb exploded on a railway track in Narathiwat, causing minor damage, and arsonists set fire to a local water works office, police said. Overnight, suspected insurgents set fire to the kitchen of a primary school in the Srisakorn district of Narathiwat and opened fire at a military checkpoint in the area, police said.
 
Wow your quick... I hoped nobody had read it in the 3 or so minutes before I saw it. (edited my prior post, I had asked if they released the name)

Very much appreciated none the less
 
Chanman the King met with the coup leaders at midnight. By the way Gen. Sondhi, who is now acting PM, is a muslim. As I said before, if the King didnt back the coup it would have ended yesterday. The military is loyal to the King and not the PM.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/20/headlines/headlines_30014103.php
 
tomahawk6 said:
Chanman the King met with the coup leaders at midnight. By the way Gen. Sondhi, who is now acting PM, is a muslim. As I said before, if the King didnt back the coup it would have ended yesterday. The military is loyal to the King and not the PM.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/20/headlines/headlines_30014103.php

Ah, I stand corrected.

Has the King ever said anything about the Coups that have ocurred during his watch besides the one 15 years ago when some protestors were killed?
 
Should be fine. The government was viewed as illegitimate and corrupt. The Army stepped in to set things right.
 
I was surprised by the lack of coverage this got. It was completely overshadowed by the "showdown" between Bush and Iran's president.

By the sounds of it, it was a fairly easy coup, not much fighting involved.
 
Coups in Thailand are historically bloodless affairs. No one wants to see one Army unit pitted against another. The role of the King is crucial to Thai society. He and the Royal family are revered so his stamp of approval is critical to the success of any coup.
 
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