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The David Ahenakew Thread- Merged

Octavianus said:
What's the difference? Our Ontario government let them stay all year long, why not the whole winter too! Hmmmm....this could be another PR move by the government...... if they stay the winter, there could be a chance that some of the occupiers may freeze to death. If that happens the government will probably get lambasted for allowing them to freeze because we didn't supply them with adequate "everything they want" . Just like the homeless in TO.
  I see....because of the change in season , it's now become unacceptable for the insurgents to stay the winter. Whereas before the frost hits the ground, it appears to be acceptable!

Because as much as a bunch of tools Dolton and the gang look now, imagine how they will look when they are handing out our parkas and arctic boots to these tools.  Or even better, buying them trailers and mobile homes to erect, because one of these asshats is going to pass out and freeze to death on the line and all of a sudden it will be a humanitarian crisis. 
I love that they won't get rid of these dinks, but even hippy BC kicked a bunch of Falun Gong protesters away from in front of the Chinese embassy.  God knows the violence yoga has inspired over the years.  ::)
 
May be a good time to practice some Darwinism and clean out the Gene Pool.  No free rides out.
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060902.CALEDONIA02/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/

Caledonia standoff threatens to heat up again
Residents frustrated with slow pace of negotiations over land rights

ALEX DOBROTA

As the warm summer days dwindle, so does the patience of many residents in Caledonia, where a six-month-long native standoff threatens to erupt into violence once again.

Many townsfolk who lived through a summer of flare-ups will send their children to an elementary school that borders a development site sitting on land the occupiers claim was taken from them unlawfully by the Crown.

The local school board has postponed plans to build a wooden wall between a schoolyard and the occupied land.

The site is at the centre of a battle over land rights that started when some members of the Six Nations reserve set up barricades blocking the road into the development on Feb. 28. A court order evicting them has not been enforced. In June, the province bought out the developer for $12.3-million.

This week, Henco Industries Ltd. said it received an additional $3.5-million in compensation. The province is holding the land in trust.

Frustrated with the slow pace of negotiations, many residents have threatened to take up arms.

Amid calls for calm from the federal and provincial governments, the OPP announced yesterday that it will be ramping up an already heavy presence on the streets of Caledonia to keep the peace throughout the long weekend.

However, the spokesman for a local residents' group that calls itself Caledonia Resistance said many residents are hunting enthusiasts who have considered turning their guns on the occupiers during tense situations.

"There's times the trigger locks have been off," Steve Tong said. "There's times when I had my gun out of the cabinet and the gun sitting there ready."

Mr. Tong hinted there may be a rally in the offing, but refused to say more.

"We're making plans and things are going to happen soon," he said. "Something is going to be done."

Mr. Tong, who owns a house with a yard that borders on the occupied land, said he will not send his two children, aged 5 and 13, to Notre Dame Catholic School when classes resume on Tuesday -- not until the school board builds a fence that shields the schoolyard from the occupied site.

The work was delayed because of land issues with the natives occupying the Douglas Creek Estates site.

The fence was to be erected one metre inside the occupied land, said Theresa Harris, director of education for the Brant Haldimand Norfolk School Board.

But that plan was scratched to avoid confrontations. Instead, construction workers are to build the fence on the footprint of an existing chain link fence, Ms. Harris said.

In the meantime, as many as 20 parents have applied to transfer their children to another school, said Rebecca Taylor, a spokeswoman for the school board.

Evidence of the mounting tensions has also showed up on the doorstep of Haldimand County Mayor Marie Trainer.

She said two women, who live in the county but not in Caledonia, walked into her office this week and said "they are ready to arm themselves and clean it up since nobody else will."

"It's getting dangerous," Ms. Trainer said.

In a letter sent to the Six Nations Confederacy Council, federal and provincial ministers asked the occupiers to keep a low profile.

"We expect a smaller presence on the site and the eventual withdrawal of that presence . . .," read the letter signed by Minister of Indian Affairs Jim Prentice and by Ontario Minister of Natural Resources David Ramsay. But their expectations are not likely to materialize soon.

If anything, more supporters will converge on the occupation site this weekend to buttress the occupiers' ranks should a confrontation erupt, said Brian Sky, the head of security for the site.

Mr. Sky was recovering yesterday from smoke inhalation, which he suffered on Wednesday evening when he used a hose to extinguish a fire that damaged one of the half-built houses on the occupied land.

The Six Nations Fire Department is investigating the cause of the fire.

The occupiers said they intended to finish the 11 homes and to hunker down in them for the winter. Mr. Sky vowed they will remain on the site at any cost -- even if Caledonia residents turn their guns on them.

"It's a real threat and we're concerned," he said. "Even if they do it, that doesn't mean we're going to leave. It just takes it to another level."

This is what happens when you let problems fester and allow a group of people to flaut the law, based on perceived injustices from hundreds of years ago. If the government keeps dragging its heals, this could turn into something that makes Oka and Ipperwash look like a sunday picnic. Dolton is toast after this mess.
 
It's time to start playing hard ball and finish this. What happened 200 years ago doesn't matter. Everyone from 200 years ago is dead.  They have no claim as far as I'm concerned.  Just cause your ancestor owned something and had it taken away doesn't make it yours.
 
Well, after all this time perhaps some of our laws are being applied equally?


http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=IRELAND-qqqm=news-qqqid=34280-qqqx=1.asp

Go-ahead given for class action involving Boniface
06 July 2008  By John Burke

A multimillion dollar lawsuit involving the deputy head of the Garda Inspectorate, Gwen Boniface, is set to go ahead in Canada following the failure of the Ontario government to block the legal action.

Boniface is a former commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police and was the first female president of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police. The class action lawsuit is being taken by residents of Caledonia, Ontario, who claim police failed to intervene when their community was occupied by Native Americans.

The controversial occupation occurred several months before Boniface accepted the job of joint deputy to Garda Inspector Kathleen O’Toole.

Boniface was named in the CDN$12 million (€8.4 million) lawsuit, initiated last year by 14 residents, alleging malfeasance by the police. The action alleges that Boniface failed to properly enforce a court order, inadequately coordinated a police operation and failed to protect the welfare of residents next to a site in Caledonia which was illegally occupied by Native Americans in February 2006.

The residents claim that Boniface failed to ask for extra police units when officers were overrun by protesters during an attempted eviction. They are seeking compensation against Ontario police over the alleged malfeasance, CDN$5million (€3.5million) in damages from the province of Ontario and an additional CDN$2 million in aggravated and punitive damages.

Ontario Supreme Court judge David Crane ruled last December that the court had jurisdiction to examine how police conducted the operation, and has now ruled that the provincial government cannot appeal his decision.

Despite the discontent among residents, Boniface was complimented on her handling of the ‘‘highly complex’’ issue by the Ontario Province Police Association
[personal note:  they were all a bunch of toady licks back when she was in power, so that actually more of an indictment than a compliment] when she announced her departure to Ireland in July 2006. A spokesman for the Garda Inspectorate said it would not be commenting on the issue and said that Boniface would not be available for comment.

Funny, this turns up in an Irish newspaper and not here.  What a shock  :o
 
I had no idea this trial /appeal was still going on..........I wonder how much its cost us so far?



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090223.wahenakew0223/BNStory/National/home

Ahenakew found not guilty
PATRICK WHITE

Globe and Mail Update
February 23, 2009 at 12:46 PM EST

SASKATOON — Six years after he said Jews were a “disease” and tried to justify the Holocaust to a Saskatoon reporter, David Ahenakew has been found not guilty of willfully promoting hatred.

Reading a 19-page decision, Provincial Court judge Wilfrid Tucker harshly condemned Mr. Ahenakew's remarks, calling them “revolting, disgusting and untrue,” but determined that the former head of the Assembly of First nations did not intend to broadcast his views.
“There is no indication that the accused, at the time of the interview, even considered the possibility that the statements he made to [the reporter] would cause hatred against Jewish people to be promoted,” Mr. Tucker said.

The charges stem from a December, 2002 speech to First Nations leaders during which Mr. Ahenakew denounced immigrants and blamed Jews for starting World War II. In a subsequent interview with Saskatoon Star-Phoenix reporter James Parker, Mr. Ahenakew said that Hitler “fried” six million Jews to “make damn sure that the Jews didn't take over Germany or Europe” and that the world would “be owned by the Jews right now” had Hitler not “cleaned up a hell of a lot of things.”
In this file photo, David Ahenakew arrives at court for the second trial in his high profile hate crime case, in Saskatoon, Sask., Monday, Nov. 24, 2008. The former leader of the Assembly of First Nations was found not guilty today of 'willfully promoting hatred' from anti-Semetic comments made to a Saskatoon audience and later a local reporter.
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In this file photo, David Ahenakew arrives at court for the second trial in his high profile hate crime case, in Saskatoon, Sask., Monday, Nov. 24, 2008. The former leader of the Assembly of First Nations was found not guilty today of 'willfully promoting hatred' from anti-Semetic comments made to a Saskatoon audience and later a local reporter.

Mr. Ahenakew made a tearful public apology after the comments were circulated in media reports around the world.
The federal government revoked his Order of Canada and he lost his position as a senator with the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian nations.
In July, 2005, Mr. Ahenakew was convicted of promoting hatred and fined $1,000. The decision was overturned 11 months later after the Court of Queen's Bench ruled that the original judge had not fully considered Mr. Ahenakew's intent.

During a trial last fall, Mr. Ahenakew, now 75, testified that he never intended to promote hatred and doesn't hate Jews.
For much of the 30 minutes it took Mr. Tucker to read his decision today, Mr. Ahenakew kept his arms folded and eyes closed.
Judge Tucker said that because Mr. Ahenakew never intended to talk about his opinions on Jews with the reporter – at one point even saying “I'm not gonna argue with you about the Jews” to Mr. Parker – he showed no desire to publicize those views.

Outside the courtroom today, Mr. Ahenakew remained largely silent as his lawyer and daughter fielded questions, but did say “I'm glad it's over.”
Defence lawyer Doug Christie said the Ahenakew family could finally have some peace and chided the Crown for pursuing the case. “It was a few moments in history that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and really nothing was achieved in terms of harmony or understanding.”

Randy Katzman, a spokesman for B'nai Brith, criticized the ruling and said his organization would “either ask the Crown to review or maybe ask for the legislation to be changed.”
A representative from the Canadian Jewish Congress said she respected the judge's decision and applauded him for denouncing Mr. Ahenakew's comments.
Crown prosecutor Sandeep Bains said he will need to review the ruling further before deciding whether to appeal.
 
Saying your sorry is usually good enough to clear people of their actions.  How can you have an intent to commit any crime if you say your sorry after?  Clearly, this was a good decision. 
 
zipperhead_cop said:
Saying your sorry is usually good enough to clear people of their actions.  How can you have an intent to commit any crime if you say your sorry after?  Clearly, this was a good decision.

Damn, we really have to get a sarcasm smiley
 
zipperhead_cop said:
Saying your sorry is usually good enough to clear people of their actions.  How can you have an intent to commit any crime if you say your sorry after?  Clearly, this was a good decision.

Or an "I was only joking" defence usually works...
 
Kat Stevens said:
Or an "I was only joking" defence usually works...

I think he used the "Hey, I have a buddy that is a Jew, and I nailed one once" defence.  That one is always golden. 
 
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