The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[MrWhyt]

So Ukraine gets screwed on delivery? This sounds a bit like TKMS saying they can supply us when they already have orders in the pipeline.

Ukraine hasn't actually ordered anything. A letter of intent is not an order, no money has changed hands, yet.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Trudeau in 2015 vowed to scrap the F-35. There wasn’t an order with Harper just intent. Trudeau canceled nothing. They played this numbers game to delay buying anything. The numbers changed from 65 to 88. Talk of getting Super Hornets as an interim to bump the numbers. I think Boeing was lobbying pretty hard then. Airforce started a competition a couple years after the election. Picked up 2nd hand Hornets from Australia. Another waste of money. At one point in the competition it seemed as if there was a leaning towards Rafale, but it was out when the French were unwilling to code share. I can’t remember why Typhoon was eliminated. It may have been cost, dunno. That left SAAb & LM. After much knuckle dragging an order was finally placed. This was secured with a down payment. As much as I dislike Trudeau, his government started the ball rolling, but they should have signed a contract for 65 min. Again kicking the can down the road on the military like every government since Pierre. Oh yuk, that name puts a bad taste in my mouth.

The excuse I heard was that the Europeans believed the order was slanted towards the F-35, which I doesn't surprise me.

 

[Rainbow1910]

The excuse I heard was that the Europeans believed the order was slanted towards the F-35, which I doesn't surprise me.

Typhoon withdrawn from Canadian fighter competition - Skies Mag

The departure of the Typhoon leaves three aircraft in the running to provide Canada with 88 new fighter jets.

skiesmag.com

Airbus and the United Kingdom’s Ministry of Defence informed the Canadian government on Aug. 30 following a “detailed review of the request for proposal (RFP)” issued on July 23, Airbus said in a statement.

The company cited two factors that prompted the decision to withdraw following reviews of both the draft RFPs and the final document.

“First, a detailed review has led the parties to conclude that NORAD security requirements continue to place too significant of a cost on platforms whose manufacture and repair chains sit outside the United States-Canada 2-EYES community.”

The second concern was the fact that “the significant recent revision of industrial technological benefits (ITB) obligations does not sufficiently value the binding commitments the Typhoon Canada package was willing to make, and which were one of its major points of focus.”

Both the U.K. MoD and Airbus Defence and Space acknowledged the complexity of the project and thanked the future Fighter Capability Project Office for its “commitment to transparency” and “the thoroughly professional nature of the competition.”