The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Maxman1]

Saab partnering with Bombardier to build T-7 Red Tails in Canada would be far more beneficial. On top of giving us a replacement for the Hawk and Tutor, and the possibility of a light fighter/ground attack plane, the US would probably be appreciative of the T-7 program being sped up.

It's almost odd they haven't mentioned anything about the T-7 so far.

 

[Nvlgzr]

T-7 is a partnership between Boeing and SAAB. SAAB being the junior partner .

 

[Maxman1]

T-7 is a partnership between Boeing and SAAB. SAAB being the junior partner .

But is it possible to open another production line in Canada?

 

[GR66]

But is it possible to open another production line in Canada?

I'm not sure if you've been watching the news at all lately, but I don't get the impression that the current US administration is big on the idea of offshoring manufacturing at the moment.

 

[Kirkhill]

I'm not sure if you've been watching the news at all lately, but I don't get the impression that the current US administration is big on the idea of offshoring manufacturing at the moment.

I think the Norwegians and the Aussies might have a different take on that. Defenc(s)e seems to inolve a different calculus than the rest of the market.

If we paid a licence, and adjusted our tariffs and taxes, while actively and effectively took steps to manage our own defence and contribute to mutual defence, i suspect we might get a different read.

 

[GR66]

I think the Norwegians and the Aussies might have a different take on that. Defenc(s)e seems to inolve a different calculus than the rest of the market.

If we paid a licence, and adjusted our tariffs and taxes, while actively and effectively took steps to manage our own defence and contribute to mutual defence, i suspect we might get a different read.

I'm not saying that there isn't the opportunity for US defence contractors to open production in Canada. US companies having foreign production for foreign customers is one thing. However, Canada doesn't require enough T-7's to justify opening a production line here just for our demand and I am VERY confident that the US would not be willing to shift US manufacturing jobs at Boeing to Canada to produce aircraft for the USAF. In the absence of significant foreign demand for Canadian produced T-7's by non-US countries that aren't seeking domestic production of their own then I think you can see why there has been no mention by Saab of producing T-7's here. I'm sure if they saw there was a business case they would have put it on the table to sweeten the Gripen pot.

I continue to contend that the smartest option for Canada to partner with Saab is for a next-gen CCV R&D and production facility in Canada. We'll need these to supplement our F-35 fleet and there is much less political baggage for countries buying foreign UAVs than much more expensive crewed fighters so the opportunities for foreign sales are much greater.

 

[Kirkhill]

I'm not saying that there isn't the opportunity for US defence contractors to open production in Canada. US companies having foreign production for foreign customers is one thing. However, Canada doesn't require enough T-7's to justify opening a production line here just for our demand and I am VERY confident that the US would not be willing to shift US manufacturing jobs at Boeing to Canada to produce aircraft for the USAF. In the absence of significant foreign demand for Canadian produced T-7's by non-US countries that aren't seeking domestic production of their own then I think you can see why there has been no mention by Saab of producing T-7's here. I'm sure if they saw there was a business case they would have put it on the table to sweeten the Gripen pot.

I continue to contend that the smartest option for Canada to partner with Saab is for a next-gen CCV R&D and production facility in Canada. We'll need these to supplement our F-35 fleet and there is much less political baggage for countries buying foreign UAVs than much more expensive crewed fighters so the opportunities for foreign sales are much greater.

I agree entirely.

A CCA is much closer. politically, to a brilliant munition like a missile or Loitering Munition than it is a car or a fridge. It is designed to be wasted. In a good cause.

 

[Nvlgzr]

But is it possible to open another production line in Canada?

Boeing more likely would move some components to Boeing Winnipeg.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Or Montreal, where it already has a lot of components being manufactured.