The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Altair]

as for helping out PMMC, (if we are allowed to call him Uncle, god help PP for what I will call him), he's fine.

Canadians Favour Gripen over F-35

[Ottawa – December 17, 2025] As the debate over Canada’s next-generation fighter jet continues, Canadians are leaning decisively away from an all-F-35 future.

www.ekospolitics.com

43+29, carry the one....72 percent of canadians would support the Gripen in some capacity. The Gripen would win a supermajority in an election and we don't even know what their tax policy is.

 

[ArmyRick]

as for helping out PMMC, (if we are allowed to call him Uncle, god help PP for what I will call him), he's fine.

Canadians Favour Gripen over F-35

[Ottawa – December 17, 2025] As the debate over Canada’s next-generation fighter jet continues, Canadians are leaning decisively away from an all-F-35 future.

www.ekospolitics.com

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43+29, carry the one....72 percent of canadians would support the Gripen in some capacity. The Gripen would win a supermajority in an election and we don't even know what their tax policy is.

When PM MC steers in the direction I agree with or he does something I approve, he gets "Uncle Mark"

I am very happy with the direction defence is heading under Uncle Mark. The F35 is a dicey issue, I will admit. But Globaleye is a win. We never had an AWACS plane. Same with HIMARS. Waiting to see which sub he picks, either way its better than no subs (which is what trudeau would have gone with)

 

[Altair]

When PM MC steers in the direction I agree with or he does something I approve, he gets "Uncle Mark"

I guess PP is safe from any moniker from me then.

I am very happy with the direction defence is heading under Uncle Mark. The F35 is a dicey issue, I will admit. But Globaleye is a win. We never had an AWACS plane. Same with HIMARS. Waiting to see which sub he picks, either way its better than no subs (which is what trudeau would have gone with)

So the question is, do you like the process we are going through to buy the subs? Build autos here, we buy subs work for you?

 

[ArmyRick]

So the question is, do you like the process

Process. Depends. On the F35 vs Gripen, in my mind that was settled twice, under the Harper and then Trudeau Government.

I realize we have to balance most effective choice vs the best interest for our economy, sometimes both can meet together (like the LAV6 is an excellent wheeled AFV)

I never want a choice made just to flip off our American friends.

That being said, there have been many decisions made I do agree with. Take Globaleye, I assume it was the ideal solution beyond wanting to make friends with Saab. We already use products from Saab like the Carl G.

You have probably heard by now, I am a big fan of South Korea's kit. They make good stuff. So do many Europeans. Especially the Swedes. For many years they stood on their own and faced down the Soviet Bear, solo. Norway (Kongsberg), Sweden (Saab) and Finland (Patria) have three defence companies that make excellent kit.

On defence, process has been compromised many times in the last several decades (both Liberal and conservatives have been very guilty of it), using defence procurement as a political football.