The Russian Military Merged Thread- Navy
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Has the United States authorized sale of F-35's to India?
My recollection was that they had previously balked at that, but had offered Superhornet and latest generation of F-16 (which in this case, would not be applicable) with one of the biggest hurdles being that India was demanding some technology transfer and domestic production.
Matthew.
My recollection was that they had previously balked at that, but had offered Superhornet and latest generation of F-16 (which in this case, would not be applicable) with one of the biggest hurdles being that India was demanding some technology transfer and domestic production.
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The US hasnt authorized the sale of the F-35 to India. However, Lockheed had offered at one time the F-35 if India bought F-16's at the same price. While we are definitely getting closer to India I dont see us sharing technology with them that would put their aerospace industry in a competitive position. If we wont sell the F-22 to our closest friends I just dont think the F-35 will go to India,but who knows what the future holds ?
Lockheed offering the F-35 to India can have some really complex repercussions. India is already in a JV with Russia for the Fifth generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) that -may- be comparable to the F-35. Yes, while the F-35 has a significant developmental headstart, its induction into the Indian Airforce would come at the same time as the FGFA, if ever. Also, the F-35 has some restrictions on the Transfer of Technology on the American side and mandatory domestic production clauses on the Indian side that may make it more unattractive.
The main market in India that I see for the F-35 would be the navy. India has planned to have 3 aircraft carriers and the F-35 might be purchased for them. But here too the F-35 would face competition from the naval LCA and the MiG 29Ks specially being made for the Indian navy.
But then again, no one knows what the future holds. Afterall, the current Indian-US relation were inconcieveable only a decade ago.
With regards to the Russian demands for more money, I think India has no choice but to give in. There will be much hand wringing and head shaking in India but the Russians do have the upper hand. They know India will soon be without a carrier and the "Gorshkov" is essential to the Indian naval plans.
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The main market in India that I see for the F-35 would be the navy. India has planned to have 3 aircraft carriers and the F-35 might be purchased for them. But here too the F-35 would face competition from the naval LCA and the MiG 29Ks specially being made for the Indian navy.
But then again, no one knows what the future holds. Afterall, the current Indian-US relation were inconcieveable only a decade ago.
With regards to the Russian demands for more money, I think India has no choice but to give in. There will be much hand wringing and head shaking in India but the Russians do have the upper hand. They know India will soon be without a carrier and the "Gorshkov" is essential to the Indian naval plans.
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I remember reading somewhere (please don't ask me for a source I can't recall) that Russia might want to raise the costs of putting Gorshkov back to sea so high that India might cancel the contract. Then the Russian Navy could take the carrier back for cheap money.
As a counter argument, the Russian Navy is planning to name the Project 22350 class frigate after Admiral Gorshkov. Therefore if the Russian Navy is making a ploy to get the carrier back for cheap then it may have to rename it.
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As a counter argument, the Russian Navy is planning to name the Project 22350 class frigate after Admiral Gorshkov. Therefore if the Russian Navy is making a ploy to get the carrier back for cheap then it may have to rename it.
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The Russians rename ships as often as most people change underwear so I would not expect the name of the first Project 22350 frigate to be carved in stone.
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Ex-Dragoon said:
A very annoying habit...
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Greymatters said:
...clean underware is annoying..... ;D
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Alright, considering that Russia has been reportedly exporting warships like those Sovremenny class destroyers and those Kilo class submarines for China in recent years, then how much truth is there to this report?
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They may be looking at other nations besides China to open up markets; nations that want better quality products. Unable to provide the quality, they are not finding the customers. Some customers, like China, North Korea, etc. place less value on their personnel as do Western nations and some of the emerging nations. They may have higher "Safety" concerns for their crews than previous Communist customers did and still do.
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CougarDaddy said:
Did you not post an article on 18 July that the Russians cut 2 frigate programs....
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Ex-Dragoon said:
Perhaps that thread should be merged with this then?
Before I read this article, I just wrongly inferred that cutting those 2 programs were not indicative of the overall state of their shipbuilding industry.
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At least no one was hurt.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090724/oddities/russia_military_accident_offbeat
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090724/oddities/russia_military_accident_offbeat
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