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The Threat of Modern Piracy- A Merged Thread

And another country is heard from.

India launches first navy mission against pirates
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3215953/India-launches-first-navy-mission-against-pirates.html
The Indian navy has for the first time deployed a warship to conduct anti-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden off the Somali coast to protect merchant vessels.

By Rahul Bedi in New Delhi Last Updated: 12:32PM BST 17 Oct 2008

The ministry of defence in New Delhi said that the frigate, equipped with a helicopter carrying marine commandos, would safeguard India's sea-borne trade as vessels move through the vital trade route.

A spokesman said the deployment was intended to "instill confidence in our sea faring community as well as function as a deterrent for pirates".

The deployment was triggered by last month's hijacking of the Japanese-owned chemical tanker MV Stolt Valor by Somali pirates in the Red Sea as it made its way from Aden to Mumbai, formerly known as Bombay.

The pirates demanded a £3 million ransom to release the ship and its 22-member crew of which 18 including the captain were Indians. But they halved their demand to during negotiations with the ship's owner.

As the 48-hour deadline to meet the pirate's demands expired on Thursday, there was speculation that the Indian navy was planning to storm the Valor but the defence ministry denied this.

It said that a warship in the area would be "significant" as the Gulf of Aden was a major strategic "choke point" in the Indian Ocean region and provided access to the Suez Canal, through which the sizeable portion of India's trade flows.

Over 90 per cent of India's foreign trade by volume and 77 per cent by value is shipped through the region, largely through the Suez Canal.

Naval officials said that while its deployment to the Gulf of Aden formulated a nascent anti-piracy strategy, Manmohan Singh's government would not allow the navy to execute "hot pursuit" missions after pirate vessels.

Permission to pursue a pro-active strategy in this regard would only be accorded on a case by case basis only after collective consultation with the defence, foreign, law and shipping ministries, officials said.

.  .  .

The Indian navy's deployment in international waters also meets its ambition to expand its strategic reach in the crucial Indian Ocean region which it considers its "back yard".
 
Interesting think tank report on Somalia piracy (.pdf), including some options and a Canadian example of private sector help (more details below summary) - "Summary Points" in last quote box below....

(....) Options for the International Community
1. Organize shipping into a safe lane.
(....)
2. Provide a coastguard for Somalia.
(....)
3. A large naval presence
(....)
4. Pay no ransoms
(....)
5. Do nothing
(....)

From page 11 - highlights mine:
Box 2: Private security and Somali piracy
Private security firms have a long history of involvement in attempting to combat Somali piracy. To date, however, none have been very effective and in the majority of cases it is hard to see that anything at all was achieved.

(....)

SOMCAN – Somali Canadian Coastguard
SOMCAN held a contract from the government of Puntland from 2002 to 2005 to provide coastguard facilities for Puntland. Its effectiveness was called into question as three of the company’s employees were sentenced to ten years in jail in Thailand for piracy, although they claimed to have been protecting a Thai fishing boat.


(....)

Summary points
- Piracy off the coast of Somalia has more than doubled in 2008; so far over 60 ships have been attacked. Pirates are regularly demanding and receiving million-dollar ransom payments and are becoming more aggressive and assertive.
- The international community must be aware of the danger that Somali pirates could become agents of international terrorist networks. Already money from ransoms is helping to pay for the war in Somalia, including funds to the US terror-listed Al-Shabaab.
- The high level of piracy is making aid deliveries to drought-stricken Somalia ever more difficult and costly. The World Food Programme has already been forced to
temporarily suspend food deliveries. Canada is now escorting WFP deliveries but there are no plans in place to replace their escort when it finishes later this year.
- The danger and cost of piracy (insurance premiums for the Gulf of Aden have increased tenfold) mean that shipping could be forced to avoid the Gulf of Aden/Suez Canal and divert around the Cape of Good Hope. This would add considerably to the costs of manufactured goods and oil from Asia and the Middle East. At a time of high inflationary pressures, this should be of grave concern.
- Piracy could cause a major environmental disaster in the Gulf of Aden if a tanker is sunk or run aground or set on fire. The use of ever more powerful weaponry makes this increasingly likely.
-  There are a number of options for the international community but ignoring the problem is not one of them. It must ensure that WFP deliveries are protected and that gaps in supply do not occur.
(....)
 
This is getting out of hand. I'm really thinking that a Royal Marine/USMC and the RN and USN need to head this up. Simple plan:

Convoy the ships
I take it we have some expertise in that area.

Get them to secure harbor and dockyard.

Anyone gets in your way....BAM!! like Emeril on a cooking show...cook em!!
 
Well I don't think they would be that stupid enough to take on the firepower of a dedicated warship, so I am doubting they would actually make an appearance.

Now thinking out loud....if you want they to come to you so you can engage and destroy them, then revive the Qship concept. Imagine the reaction of said pirates if a false container(s) fell away to reveal 76mm and several 12.7-40mm autoguns? These Jack Sparrow wannabes would then a) find a safer occupation or b) would most likely further develop their own intelligence assets to ensure the ship they want to attack is safe for them to do so.
 
OldSolduer said:
Sounds good. Decoys are great. But the real ships still have to get there.

Granted but in theory it would be another weapon we could use against these idiots.
 
Blackwater: We’ll defend against pirates

By Philip Ewing - Staff writer Navy Times  Posted : Saturday Oct 18, 2008 8:14:59 EDT
 
The military contractor Blackwater Worldwide is offering to protect merchant ships from pirates, the company announced Thursday, advertising the security services of its ship for use off the coast of Somalia or elsewhere.

A rash of pirate attacks has driven up the cost of insurance and pay for crew members aboard the thousands of merchant vessels that pass off the Horn of Africa, the company said, making it comparatively economical to engage its ship, the McArthur, and its crew of ex-military specialists.

“Billions of dollars of goods move through the Gulf of Aden each year,” said Blackwater vice president Bill Matthews in the announcement. “We have been contacted by ship owners who say they need our help in making sure those goods get to their destination safely. The McArthur can help us accomplish that.”

Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrell told Navy Times that the company has initially proposed protecting individual vessels — for example, the owner of a dry cargo ship would pay to have an escort by the McArthur as it passed off the lawless coast of Somalia, where pirates now are ransoming 11 ships.

But she didn’t rule out the idea that a shipping company could also engage the McArthur to loiter in a heavily traveled patch of ocean, patrolling for pirates or responding to requests for help.

Warships from several nations already patrol the Gulf of Aden, but it’s often unclear what capabilities they have to act against pirates under local and international laws. U.S. captains, for example, have been frustrated when they’ve tried to chase pirates inside the territorial waters of Somalia, which does not have a central government. Navies also have been skittish about sinking pirates’ vessels, out of confusion over whether they have the right to arrest them, or even whether pirates rescued on the high seas can ask for political asylum.

Piracy is not at all new, but its confusing legal implications are, said Capt. Douglas Hard, who teaches navigation law at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point, N.Y.

“Years ago, there was no doubt; you just blew them out of the water,” he said. “We’ve become a kinder, gentler society now. You didn’t used to worry about how to handle a pirate.”

On Sept. 22, Vice Adm. Bill Gortney, the Navy commander in the region, suggested that the shipping industry take extra precautions to protect its ships, because the local anti-piracy surface group, Combined Task Force 150, couldn’t be everywhere at once.

“The coalition does not have the resources to provide 24-hour protection for the vast number of merchant vessels in the region,” Gortney said. “The shipping companies must take measures to defend their vessels and their crews.”

A spokesman for Gortney, Lt. Nate Christensen, told Navy Times on Friday that although the Navy would not endorse any particular security firm, the Blackwater announcement was “an example of proactive defensive measures shipping companies can take in order to help prevent piracy attacks in the Gulf of Aden and off the coast of Somalia.”

“Even with the establishment of the maritime security patrol area, coalition forces have not always been close by to a ship being threatened — especially if the merchant vessel is not in the designated patrol area. Over the past several weeks, we have seen instances where coalition actions have thwarted events, but we have also had instances where vessels came under attack,” Christensen said.

Arming civilian mariners, however, raises its own tangle of international legal issues. U.S. Military Sealift Command cargo ships are crewed by civilians; when they sail through potentially hostile waters, the ships take aboard security teams composed of active-duty sailors.

Tyrell said that when Blackwater begins operating the McArthur on the high seas, it will get “all required Directorate of Defense Trade Controls licensing and would comply with applicable United States government provisos and restrictions.”

Blackwater’s CEO, Erik Prince, raised the possibility of getting into maritime security July 7, when he told Navy Times the company was interested in hiring ex-sailors with experience in riverine units and boardings at sea.

“Most of the world moves its stuff by water,” Prince said. “And maritime piracy is a growing problem, and I think there’re some private-sector solutions that are available when folks want to go to that measure as well.”

Although Prince and other initial founders of Blackwater are former Navy SEALs, the company has so far provided mostly ground and air support to its clients around the world.

Blackwater bought the 183-foot McArthur last year from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and converted it from a research vessel into a modern support ship, complete with a helicopter flight deck and accommodations for small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles.

 
Ex-Dragoon said:
Well I don't think they would be that stupid enough to take on the firepower of a dedicated warship, so I am doubting they would actually make an appearance.

Now thinking out loud....if you want they to come to you so you can engage and destroy them, then revive the Qship concept. Imagine the reaction of said pirates if a false container(s) fell away to reveal 76mm and several 12.7-40mm autoguns? These Jack Sparrow wannabes would then a) find a safer occupation or b) would most likely further develop their own intelligence assets to ensure the ship they want to attack is safe for them to do so.
If the gun batteries were hidden away in a seacan, who says that same said seacan has to stay on the same ship....
make a shellgame out of the darned thing.
if the pirates hit a ship that has the gun platform, they will add said ship's name to their list of ships they would rather not frequent.... then move seacan to another ship - another juicy target.... that isn't
 
Maybe while we are at it, we can do something about Somalia itself ?

I know i know........  "Burn him, burn him"
 
Umm.... some of those ships that are being hijacked are carrying food to Somalia....
Must be able to feed em - cause people with empty stomachs can grow up to become.... pirates
 
geo said:
Umm.... some of those ships that are being hijacked are carrying food to Somalia....
Must be able to feed em - cause people with empty stomachs can grow up to become.... pirates

Geeez.......

The problem, at its root, is not Somali pirates. The problem is Somalia itself. If Somalia had a functioning government and if Somalia had a working economy where people could feed themselves....would we have a piracy problem to the extent we have now ?

Placing warships as escort, running convoys is all good ideas. That being said, they are Band-aid (tm) solutions that do not fix the problem in the long term.
 
Blackwater and others have offered to handle it, the insurers simply give a $$ break to those that hire teams to escort them through the area, charge a premium on those that don't want to spend the $$.

This is about pirates, but it is also about cheap owners who won't spend a dime where it needs to be spent, if they think they can get various governments to cover off the costs. Eventually the light bulb will come on, abet, maybe a little dimly at first.....
 
Blackadder1916 said:
Blackwater: We’ll defend against pirates
   
The military contractor Blackwater Worldwide is offering to protect merchant ships from pirates, the company announced Thursday, advertising the security services of its ship for use off the coast of Somalia or elsewhere.
. . .
Blackwater bought the 183-foot McArthur last year from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and converted it from a research vessel into a modern support ship, complete with a helicopter flight deck and accommodations for small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles.

Though Blackwater does not appear to have published any specifications about their conversion of the McArthur there is still a link to NOAA with information about the vessel.  http://www.moc.noaa.gov/ar/index.html

General Specifications
Design
Designer: Maritime Administration
Builder: Norfolk Shipbuilding and Drydock Norfolk, VA
Launched: November 1965
Delivered: November 1966
Commissioned: December 1966
Hull Number: S330
Call Letters: WTEJ
Home Port: Seattle, Washington
Length (LOA): 175 ft. (53.3 m)
Breadth (moulded): 38 ft. (11.6 m)
Draft, Maximum: 12.1 ft. (3.7 m)
Hull: Welded steel/ice strengthened
Displacement: 1,071 tons
Gross Tonnage: 854
Net Tonnage: 207

Speed & Endurance
Cruising Speed: 10 knots
Range: 6,600 nmi
Endurance: 30 days
Endurance Constraint: Stability

Scientific Laboratory Facilities
Oceanographic Lab (D Deck): 150 sq. ft.
Instrument Lab (E Deck): 150 sq. ft.
Plot Room (F Deck)

Scientific Refrigerators And Freezers
Bridge Deck Freezer
Manufacturer: GE
Volume: 32 cu. ft.
Capacity: -10 °F
Scientific van refrigerator
Manufacturer: Kenmore
Volume: 3 cu. ft.
Oceo lab refrigerator
Manufacturer: RSP Ind.
Volume: 10 cu. ft.

Berthing
Single staterooms: 2
Double staterooms: 20
Total bunks: 42

Food Service Seating Capacity
Wardroom: 10
Crew's mess: 22

Medical Facilities
Emergency and first-aid equipment, administered by trained vessel personnel.

Complement
Commissioned officers: 5
Licensed engineers: 3
Crew: 16
Scientists: Up to 13

And a photo below of the McArthur after the conversion.
 
Finally the fleet has arrived. Anyone else here have news on that Russian destroyer? It should have arrived by now as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/10/19/somalia.nato.pirates/index.html

NATO warships arrive to deter Somali pirates
Story Highlights
More than 60 ships attacked by Somali pirates in the Gulf of Aden in 2008

NATO has authorized naval vessels to protect U.N. World Food Program ships

Somali PM Sunday welcomes seven NATO warships off the coast of his country

Pirates still holding a Ukrainian ship carrying arms, demanding $20M ransom

From Journalist Mohamed Amiin Adow
     
(CNN) -- Somali Prime Minister Nur Hassan Hussein Sunday welcomed the arrival of seven NATO warships off the coast of his country to help in the battle against pirates in the region.

"We are so delighted with the arrival of those NATO ships into our waters and they have our full consent to fight against the pirates," the prime minister said at a news conference.

"NATO can carry out any acts including military actions in our waters against the pirates," he added.

Responding to a request from the United Nations, NATO defense ministers recently authorized the fleet of naval vessels to help protect U.N. World Food Program ships carrying relief supplies to Somalia.

The WFP ships had been protected by Canadian military vessels under a temporary arrangement that expired this week.


The NATO ships will also help "deter acts of piracy that continue to threaten the region," the alliance said.

It is part of an international effort to curb a spate of Somali pirate hijackings in the past year in the Gulf of Aden, which partially borders Somalia.

More than 60 ships have been attacked by Somali pirates in the Gulf of Aden this year alone, compared with about half that in 2007, according to a report released earlier this month by Chatham House, a London-based institute that analyzes international affairs.
The report found the $18 million to $30 million in ransoms already paid this year is helping to finance the war in Somalia. One of the groups reportedly receiving ransom money is Al-Shabaab, an Islamic militant group that is waging a bloody battle for control of Somalia. Al-Shabaab has been labeled a terrorist organization by the United States.

Pirates are still holding a Ukrainian ship carrying Soviet-made tanks, artillery shells, grenade launchers and small arms off Somalia's coast and are demanding a $20 million ransom. The MV Faina was seized in late September and is being monitored by nearby U.S. naval ships.

Last week, India sent a naval ship to escort Indian vessels traveling along the coast of Yemen and part of southern Oman.

Hassan said the pirates are an "absolute risk" to Somalia and the rest of the world.
 
CougarDaddy said:
Finally the fleet has arrived. Anyone else here have news on that Russian destroyer? It should have arrived by now as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/10/19/somalia.nato.pirates/index.html

CD the transit from the Baltic is a much longer trip then what SNMG2 had to undertake, not to mention the Russians may have to stop along the way. I would say she is at least a week and a half away and she isn't going full speed.
 
CougarDaddy said:
. . . Anyone else here have news on that Russian destroyer? It should have arrived by now as well.

It seems that it was taking the scenic route and apparently (as of Thursday) still enroute.  Have not found anything more recent than these items.

Russian naval task force to visit Libya
http://rusnavy.com/news/newsofday/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=5786
09.10.2008 Source: en.rian.ru

A naval task force from Russia's Northern Fleet, led by the nuclear-powered missile cruiser Pyotr Veliky, will visit the Libyan capital October 11-13, an aide to the Navy commander said Wednesday.

Capt. 1st Rank Igor Dygalo said the Neustrashimy (Fearless) missile frigate from Russia's Baltic Fleet would call at Tripoli at the same time to replenish supplies.

He added that the frigate would then continue its tour of duty via the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean.


"The Neutrashimy will go to Somalia where it will ensure the safety of Russian vessels passing through this area against pirate attacks," he said.

Last Wednesday, Somali Ambassador to Russia Mohamed Handule said his country's President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed had authorized Russia's military to fight pirates off Somalia's coast and on land.
. . . 

Russia could resume naval presence in Yemen
http://rusnavy.com/news/newsofday/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=5792
17.10.2008 Source: en.rian.ru

The speaker of Russia's upper house of parliament said on Thursday that Russia could resume a naval presence in Yemen.

Authorities in the Middle East country are calling on Moscow to help fight piracy and possible terrorist threats. The U.S.S.R. had a major naval base in the former socialist state of South Yemen, which merged with North Yemen in 1990 to form the present-day Yemen.

Speaking to journalists in Sana, the capital of Yemen, Federation Council Speaker Sergei Mironov said the new direction of Russia's foreign and defense policies and an increase in its naval missions would be taken into consideration when making a decision on the request.

"It's possible that the aspects of using Yemen ports not only for visits by Russian warships, but also for more strategic goals will be considered," he said.

He also said a visit to Russia by the president of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh, could take place in the near future and that the issue of military technical cooperation could be raised during his visit.

A missile frigate from Russia's Baltic Fleet is currently en route to Somalia at the invitation of Somali authorities to fight piracy off the Somali coast together with warships from other countries.

Somali pirates recently hijacked a Ukrainian ship, MV Faina, carrying at least 33 tanks and other heavy weaponry. Six U.S. warships are currently surrounding the Faina.

Pirates are also active near the Yemen coast in the Gulf of Aden, where they seized a Panamanian tanker in September.

Mironov said Yemen feared that groups associated with the al-Qaeda terrorist movement might be hiding in the Somali region, which has no effective government and no navy to police its coastline, and could later expand their activity in the Arabian Sea with its busy oil tanker routes.
 
Ex-Dragoon said:
CD the transit from the Baltic is a much longer trip then what SNMG2 had to undertake, not to mention the Russians may have to stop along the way. I would say she is at least a week and a half away and she isn't going full speed.

Thanks for the reply. As someone else said and asked before, it makes me wonder why Moscow didn't send a ship from their supposedly closer Black Sea Fleet instead?

Edit: Thanks to Blackadder for those news article links.
 
CougarDaddy said:
Thanks for the reply. As someone else said and asked before, it makes me wonder why Moscow didn't send a ship from their supposedly closer Black Sea Fleet instead?

Well looking at the issues lately with Georgia and the continual problems with Ukraine I am betting the Russian Navy is a little busy in that area of the world.
 
CougarDaddy said:
. . . Anyone else here have news on that Russian destroyer? It should have arrived by now as well.

Russian warship passes through Suez on way to Somalia coast
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081021/117848056.html
RIA Novosti  09:41 | 21/ 10/ 2008
 
MOSCOW, October 21 (RIA Novosti) - A missile frigate from Russia's Baltic Fleet will pass through the Suez Canal on Tuesday en route to the Somalia coast to join an international naval group fighting sea piracy in the region, a senior Navy official said.

The Neustrashimy (Fearless) missile frigate left the main naval base in Russia's Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad in late September and participated in joint drills with a Russian naval task force in the Mediterranean.

"The ship's task is to escort and protect Russian vessels or ships with Russian crewmembers on board from pirate attacks [off the Somali coast]," the source said.

The ship's armament includes SS-N-25 Switchblade anti-ship missiles, SA-N-9 Gauntlet SAM, a 100-mm gun, torpedoes and depth charges. The frigate also carries a Ka-27 ASW helicopter.

In the beginning of October, Somali Ambassador to Russia Mohamed Handule said his country's president, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, had given permission for Russia's military to tackle pirates both off Somalia's coast and on land.
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