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The US Presidency 2018

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Brad Sallows

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Senators have the power to remove their leader.  Pretend that's not implied consent to go along with whatever he does, if you choose.  Obviously Republicans are not going to end the use of slimy procedural tricks to achieve their ends.  I doubt the Democrats will unilaterally disarm when they capture the majority.
 

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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-reelection-poll-numbers-2018-7

President Donald Trump's poll numbers are sagging in three key Midwestern states, with only around one-third of voters surveyed saying he deserves to be reelected in 2020, according to new NBC News/Marist polls out Wednesday.

The poll indicated that 28% of registered voters in Michigan, a state Trump flipped in the 2016 presidential election, say he deserves a second term. Some 62% of voters polled believe it's time to replace Trump, the poll found.

In Minnesota, a state Trump lost to Hillary Clinton by fewer than two percentage points in 2016, roughly 30% of voters surveyed say Trump deserves another go-around in the Oval Office, while 60% said he doesn't.

Thirty-one percent of voters in Wisconsin are in favor of a second term for Trump, while 63% say they are not, the NBC/Marist polls show. Trump flipped Wisconsin in 2016 with around 23,000 votes.
And my hope of this being a four year nightmare that will end in 2020 continues to live on.
 

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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/07/24/majority-believes-russia-has-dirt-on-trump-poll.html

It's been a week since President Donald Trump’s widely panned meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and a new poll shows that a majority of Americans believes the Kremlin has compromising information on the American leader.

By a 51-to-35 percent margin, U.S. voters are convinced the Russian government has dirt on Trump, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll.

The new poll also showed a decline in Americans' approval of Trump's overall job performance. His approval now sits at 38 percent, compared with 58 percent disapproval. His approval rating fell five points from a June 20 Quinnipiac poll that followed the president’s summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

Its hilarious that Putin tried[largely ineffectively] to get this president elected,  and in some extent,  may end up killing his chances of being reelected.

IMHO,  one cannot try to be a tough guy one second and cozy up to Russia the next.

He has largely been the Teflon president,  but I'm willing to wager this one sticks with him as it strikes at his core brand,  a tough guy who will stand up for America.
 

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Altair said:
And my hope of this being a four year nightmare that will end in 2020 continues to live on.

Of your 1,935 posts, 1,434 are on the politics threads - that's 75%. I bet most of those are on the current U.S. administration.  Why don't you lay off the gas a bit and give everyone else a bit of breathing space to absorb the threads here?

 

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Infanteer said:
Of your 1,935 posts, 1,434 are on the politics threads - that's 75%. I bet most of those are on the current U.S. administration.  Why don't you lay off the gas a bit and give everyone else a bit of breathing space to absorb the threads here?
Nope.

Most of my posts were in the Canadian politics thread.

Thanks though.
 

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Just throwing it out there.  Some of your stuff is good and is worth reading, but people are apt to take your posts in a better light if you abstain from just throwing up every news article on Trump or Trudeau ever written.  It clogs the forums with static and discourages others from participating.
 

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Infanteer said:
Just throwing it out there.  Some of your stuff is good and is worth reading, but people are apt to take your posts in a better light if you abstain from just throwing up every news article on Trump or Trudeau ever written.  It clogs the forums with static and discourages others from participating.
I haven't posted much in the canadians politics threads for some time now,  mostly because of the large volume of news generating issues popping up south of the border.

Of those,  I only post the more important (to me)  issues. If I were to post about every single controversy that this president is able to come up with I would be exhausted.

In short,  I believe one or two interesting topics or newsworthy issues per thread in a day shouldn't be overwhelming.

Should people have different opinions,  they can feel free to post about it.

The cartoon thread seems to be handling opposing viewpoints with little trouble or controversy
 

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Coca Cola is going to increase the price on its products due to the tariffs on aluminum.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/27/news/companies/coca-cola-prices-tariffs/index.html

I'm not sure I see that as a bad thing from a public health perspective...
 

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Remius said:
Coca Cola is going to increase the price on its products due to the tariffs on aluminum.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/27/news/companies/coca-cola-prices-tariffs/index.html

I'm not sure I see that as a bad thing from a public health perspective...

Feb 2017
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coca-cola-results-idUSKBN15O1F4
The world’s largest beverage maker’s shares fell 3.1 percent to $40.73 in morning trading on Thursday.

Coca-Cola has been offloading much of its low-margin bottling business to cope with falling demand for carbonated beverages in North America.

It has also been stepping up efforts to reduce sugar in its beverages, amid growing pressure from health experts and governments who have blamed sugary drinks for a rise in obesity.
However, global volume sales for the company fell 1 percent in the fourth quarter, hurt by high levels of inflation in certain Latin American countries


Coke is still cheaper than water in many places. I agree it's a good thing from a health perspective.
 

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>Coca Cola is going to increase the price on its products due to the tariffs on aluminum.

Short your tech stocks.  Coca Cola is the fuel of IT workers.
 

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Brad Sallows said:
Short your tech stocks.  Coca Cola is the fuel of IT workers.

Maybe in the 80s. Its Redbull and Monsters now.
 

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Maybe in the 80s. Its Redbull and Monsters now.
No kidding. Damn those Monsters. Young troops drink those by the boatload. Almost got me hooked when I was on course.


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An excerpt from a FT article (behind the paywall) suggests the Chinese have a very, very different understanding of President Donald Trump than the Western media and the political establishment. Once again, we may not like the style, but the substance is going to change or overturn many long held assumptions, organizations and institutions:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/303362/

Donald Trump is leading a double life. In the west, most foreign policy experts see him as reckless, unpredictable and self-defeating. But though many in Asia dislike him as much as the Europeans do, they see him as a more substantial figure. I have just spent a week in Beijing talking to officials and intellectuals, many of whom are awed by his skill as a strategist and tactician. . . .

Few Chinese think that Mr Trump’s primary concern is to rebalance the bilateral trade deficit. If it were, they say, he would have aligned with the EU, Japan and Canada against China rather than scooping up America’s allies in his tariff dragnet. They think the US president’s goal is nothing less than remaking the global order.

They think Mr Trump feels he is presiding over the relative decline of his great nation. It is not that the current order does not benefit the US. The problem is that it benefits others more in relative terms. To make things worse the US is investing billions of dollars and a fair amount of blood in supporting the very alliances and international institutions that are constraining America and facilitating China’s rise.

In Chinese eyes, Mr Trump’s response is a form of “creative destruction”. He is systematically destroying the existing institutions — from the World Trade Organization and the North American Free Trade Agreement to Nato and the Iran nuclear deal — as a first step towards renegotiating the world order on terms more favourable to Washington.

Once the order is destroyed, the Chinese elite believes, Mr Trump will move to stage two: renegotiating America’s relationship with other powers. Because the US is still the most powerful country in the world, it will be able to negotiate with other countries from a position of strength if it deals with them one at a time rather than through multilateral institutions that empower the weak at the expense of the strong.

My interlocutors say that Mr Trump is the US first president for more than 40 years to bash China on three fronts simultaneously: trade, military and ideology. They describe him as a master tactician, focusing on one issue at a time, and extracting as many concessions as he can. They speak of the skilful way Mr Trump has treated President Xi Jinping. “Look at how he handled North Korea,” one says. “He got Xi Jinping to agree to UN sanctions [half a dozen] times, creating an economic stranglehold on the country. China almost turned North Korea into a sworn enemy of the country.” But they also see him as a strategist, willing to declare a truce in each area when there are no more concessions to be had, and then start again with a new front.

For the Chinese, even Mr Trump’s sycophantic press conference with Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, in Helsinki had a strategic purpose. They see it as Henry Kissinger in reverse. In 1972, the US nudged China off the Soviet axis in order to put pressure on its real rival, the Soviet Union. Today Mr Trump is reaching out to Russia in order to isolate China.

As always, YMMV. But this tracks with the Presidents long term public statements and positions (dating back to 1989 at least) as well as his MO as a real estate developer and businessman, so I believe this does indeed describe the President's vision and actions in a manner which is consistent and has an internal logic. The American political, bureaucratic, corporate and academic establishments may also understand the true nature of the President's goals, and a fundamental reordering of the global order will also unseat many of them from the comfortable positions they have managed to create over the decades, which explains the virulence of the domestic opposition as well.
 

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They think Mr Trump feels he is presiding over the relative decline of his great nation. It is not that the current order does not benefit the US. The problem is that it benefits others more in relative terms. To make things worse the US is investing billions of dollars and a fair amount of blood in supporting the very alliances and international institutions that are constraining America and facilitating China’s rise.

1. Duh? Did anyone genuinely think being the "Shining City Upon a Hill" (quoting Reagan, people - gag me) was going to be cheap or "relatively" advantageous? Seriously. What is the ideal manifestation of that quote: A casino? Theme Park? Truck stop?

2. Corollary to #1., if you want to champion and evangelize natural, inalienable rights as described in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights be prepared to be a bit of a charity much like your preferred flavour of Jesus-puncher. Nobody in power wants to concede that everybody below them are universally owed some minimum form of respect and consideration. Authoritarian 'rule of man' is the historical default we're allegedly striving to progress and civilize ourselves beyond, assuming the Enlightenment still has any sway anymore.

If constraining China relative to the US is your object I should think living more within one's means vis-a-vis inter-government debt is far more effective than crapping all over the alliances and institutions that have been painstakingly built over the last several decades or so. But what do I know, I'm just some quasi-academic liberal egg-head or some crap worried about my own interests or whatever.
 

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Thucydides said:
An excerpt from a FT article (behind the paywall) suggests the Chinese have a very, very different understanding of President Donald Trump than the Western media and the political establishment. Once again, we may not like the style, but the substance is going to change or overturn many long held assumptions, organizations and institutions:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/303362/

As always, YMMV. But this tracks with the Presidents long term public statements and positions (dating back to 1989 at least) as well as his MO as a real estate developer and businessman, so I believe this does indeed describe the President's vision and actions in a manner which is consistent and has an internal logic. The American political, bureaucratic, corporate and academic establishments may also understand the true nature of the President's goals, and a fundamental reordering of the global order will also unseat many of them from the comfortable positions they have managed to create over the decades, which explains the virulence of the domestic opposition as well.
there is a key line in that article which I think is spot on.

Once the order is destroyed, the Chinese elite believes, Mr Trump will move to stage two: renegotiating America’s relationship with other powers. Because the US is still the most powerful country in the world, it will be able to negotiate with other countries from a position of strength if it deals with them one at a time rather than through multilateral institutions that empower the weak at the expense of the strong.

Spot on. Which is why global powers should not try to deal with America on a one on one basis, America will win those all day long.

If the international community sticks to its guns and collectively, using multinational organizations, continue to assert pressure on America they will win in the end.

Mexico seems to have gotten the message, thankfully.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mexico-us-canada-bilateral-1.4761820

Mexican officials went out of their way yesterday to tell their Canadian counterparts not to read anything into the fact that their trade negotiators and the Americans are meeting bilaterally in Washington on Friday — that the new government in Mexico City isn't planning to cut a separate deal with the U.S. outside of NAFTA.

"The fact that this time we're going to Washington for a bilateral is just a sequence of things," said Mexico's Secretary of the Economy Ildefonso Guajardo, who handles the NAFTA file. He added that the Canadian and American negotiating teams also often hold two-way talks, and Friday's bilateral isn't an indication that Canada could be left out in the cold.
 

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Altair said:
Spot on. Which is why global powers should not try to deal with America on a one on one basis, America will win those all day long.

If the international community sticks to its guns and collectively, using multinational organizations, continue to assert pressure on America they will win in the end.

The problem is, how long will the individual nations hang on when America comes knocking with a sweetheart deal? Will Mexicans be hapy to see their econmy stall so that Canada gets a better deal too? How long will they wait? Will we decline a better offer from America to ensure Mexico gets their share?

I think in the long run America will break the trade alliances one weak link at a time until they get basically what they want.
 

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Furniture said:
The problem is, how long will the individual nations hang on when America comes knocking with a sweetheart deal? Will Mexicans be hapy to see their econmy stall so that Canada gets a better deal too? How long will they wait? Will we decline a better offer from America to ensure Mexico gets their share?

I think in the long run America will break the trade alliances one weak link at a time until they get basically what they want.
I think Nations will probably look at the long game.

America gives Mexico a sweetheart deal for example, Mexico accepts, America uses that deal to break Canada and get the deal they want with Ottawa.

What is to stop the USA from backing out of that sweetheart deal with Mexico?
 

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Altair said:
I think Nations will probably look at the long game.

America gives Mexico a sweetheart deal for example, Mexico accepts, America uses that deal to break Canada and get the deal they want with Ottawa.

What is to stop the USA from backing out of that sweetheart deal with Mexico?

Pretty unlikely that the U.S. would back out of an agreed-upon arrangement.

Oh wait...
 

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Pretty unlikely that the U.S. would back out of an agreed-upon arrangement.

Oh wait...
Yes, I wish the nation that decides to take a sweetheart deal with the US good luck, for we have all seen how the USA treats nations who it feels may be taking advantage of the USA with unfair trade deals.

Especially a one on one deal, i can't see that ending well for that nation.
 
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