The vibe shift, end of "wokeness"?

[ArmyRick]

Being compelled to hide your personal sexual or gender belief was the prior status quo

When I was in, my signature block had "RJ Waechter" (I didn't put my first name). Truth be told I didn't give a flying a F if people knew I was male or female. I didn't think about it back then. It was the "Warrant Officer/Adjutant" was the important part followed by whatever appointment I had at the time.

If I need to speak to Captain Bloggins or MWO Somebody, I don't give a hoot if they are male, female, trans, gay, lesbian, whatever. I need that person's decisions and actions, nothing less, nothing more.

 

[QV]

Being compelled to hide your personal sexual or gender belief was the prior status quo

Do what you want, just don't make it mandatory.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Apples and oranges. Being compelled to publicly project your personal sexual or gender belief is not on par with paying taxes. But if that's how you want to equate things, go ahead.

If apples is a universal element of the human condition, and oranges are the things that you dont like, then I think you are right.

I guess my point is there are very few scenarios where one can live their life without ever being "forced to do things one doesn't want to".

And I assume that if you are still in, then you have submitted your release, obviating the requirement to do something that you don't like.

 

[Jarnhamar]

So I had a conversation over breakfast with my daughter about this.

I asked her if leading a conversation with pronouns or having them in signature blocks is helpful or just performative. Does it help people who are trans, non-binary, or otherwise?

Her response floored me.

"It does about as much as me actually correcting someone if I get misgendered. Those who would have it in their signatures would most likely be the kind to apologize and correct. Those who don't are usually the type of people who would call me a slur. Making everyone do it out of policy hands a lot of wolves their sheeps clothing for free

I thought this was interesting.

A couple years ago I was was working with a high performer, super smart, PhD, and former Olympian.

She was explaining she used the masculine form of her name (think Sam for Samantha) because early on she discovered men AND women would treat her differently (worse) when she corresponded under her full name. She had a trick of building report with people over email before any voice or video calls. As someone with daughters it was a sage piece of advice but also very sad to hear.

 

[Kilted]

Signature blocks with optional things are a problem?

CD2s in a signature block are more offensive to me than any pronoun. If one truly doesn’t care then Why advocate for it being banned?

It's more of a concern that it may become mandatory.

 

[Remius]

It's more of a concern that it may become mandatory.

So ban it?

 

[ArmyRick]

So, contrary to the title, this video has a lot more to do with communism, marxism, political left and wokeness. Its an interesting watch

Personal favour, please watch or listen to it before commenting on it.

 

[QV]

If apples is a universal element of the human condition, and oranges are the things that you dont like, then I think you are right.

I guess my point is there are very few scenarios where one can live their life without ever being "forced to do things one doesn't want to".

And I assume that if you are still in, then you have submitted your release, obviating the requirement to do something that you don't like.

That’s an ignorant take. I do a lot of things I don’t like, but must do. Just like everyone else. And I measure all of that in deciding whether to continue serving.

I am allowed an opinion and I’m allowed to have my own thoughts. You don't have the monopoly on that. How many generals have resigned over the piss poor state of the CAF? Surely they don’t all agree with the state of things.

In my opinion, a work signature block has everything to do with my profession, and nothing about my personal choices or biological attributes.

 

[Remius]

That’s an ignorant take. I do a lot of things I don’t like, but must do. Just like everyone else. And I measure all of that in deciding whether to continue serving.

I am allowed an opinion and I’m allowed to have my own thoughts. You don't have the monopoly on that. How many generals have resigned over the piss poor state of the CAF? Surely they don’t all agree with the state of things.

In my opinion, a work signature block has everything to do with my profession, and nothing about my personal choices or biological attributes.

Did you ever get lessons in school about letter writing. Mr. Mrs. Miss. Ms. Master (that’s admittedly an old one). Do you use sir or ma’am at all?

It may come as a surprise to some but we’ve been using biological attributes in professional contexts for quite some time. None of this is new.

 

[QV]

Did you ever get lessons in school about letter writing. Mr. Mrs. Miss. Ms. Master (that’s admittedly an old one). Do you use sir or ma’am at all?

It may come as a surprise to some but we’ve been using biological attributes in professional contexts for quite some time. None of this is new.

Do what you want, just stop forcing it down everyone’s throat.

 

[Remius]

Do what you want, just stop forcing it down everyone’s throat.

What has been forced down your throat exactly? You said you don’t really care. You seem to.

Signature block is optional. You have an option to stay gender neutral. Why is that a problem?

 

[QV]

Thought it was mandatory.

 

[Jarnhamar]

So ban it?

Okay, that was over the top of me.

 

[Remius]

Okay, that was over the top of me.

Here is what I do agree with. No one should be ostracized or shamed for not doing it.

 

[ArmyRick]

Seriously, can we get back to the general topic at hand? This over focus on signature blocks I think has run its course.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Seriously, can we get back to the general topic at hand? This over focus on signature blocks I think has run its course.

Since when do we do 'seriously' around here?

This is a good summary IMHO... no data? No point...

The Problem with DEI​

What is almost never talked about is the data side of DEI. How do we know if something is not diverse? You can’t expect to change what you don’t understand. And so I’m dedicating my 38th weekly article to calling out some of the bad thinking I see in the DEI movement.

The whole DEI movement has been poorly conceived. It claims to be evidence-based, but it is anything but. The lack of data-anchored definitions leaves DEI officers grabbing at straws. The lack of data savvy prevents DEI officers from shifting the needle in the right direction. Instead, the DEI efforts results in distrust and dissent.

The Problem with DEI

Lack of data literacy can turn a good idea bad.

eric-sandosham.medium.com

 

[Baz]

I wonder why we are so wrapped around the axle about being told what to do by the nefarious WEF, or woke elites, or etc, etc; yet we seem to be perfectly happy to be constantly manipulated by GM, Ford, BMW, Nabisco, Microsoft, Amazon…

Oh wait, I may have a thought… it’s almost like certain powers that be benefit from turning us against each other???

However, I think anybody that thinks minorities are treated equally by society so enough with the wokeness, or that some anti-woke or anti-DEI crusaders aren’t either mad that they weren’t the alpha white male or are entrenching themselves as such, are fooling themselves.

I was only marginally different from the alphas, and I know how I got treated by them. I can’t imagine what it’s like for some, but I know personal examples of how far they’ll go to escape it.

Edited to add: lest there be any confusion, I’m fully aware that some champions of “equality” measures use them for there own benefit…

 

[Remius]

Seriously, can we get back to the general topic at hand? This over focus on signature blocks I think has run its course.

Some people seem to be upset about it. It is topical. And relevant apparently.

 

[Navy_Pete]

I wonder why we are so wrapped around the axle about being told what to do by the nefarious WEF, or woke elites, or etc, etc; yet we seem to be perfectly happy to be constantly manipulated by GM, Ford, BMW, Nabisco, Microsoft, Amazon…

Oh wait, I may have a thought… it’s almost like certain powers that be benefit from turning us against each other???

However, I think anybody that thinks minorities are treated equally by society so enough with the wokeness, or that some anti-woke or anti-DEI crusaders aren’t either mad that they weren’t the alpha white male or are entrenching themselves as such, are fooling themselves.

I was only marginally different from the alphas, and I know how I got treated by them. I can’t imagine what it’s like for some, but I know personal examples of how far they’ll go to escape it.

I've lived the white guy in Canada experience of not getting randomly pulled over, not being harshly punished, not wondering if I didn't get jobs or other selections because I'm white. I've been bullied for some things sure, which was terrible, but wasn't just because of the colour of my skin.

I think anyone who claims they don't see colour and it doesn't matter is full of shit, and it clearly still does in Canada and everywhere else. I would my experience to be the norm for everyone (without the bullying part) but pretending it is is just insulting I think.

People I served with had to hide who they were at the start of their career, or had friends that got tossed out for being LGBT, so if little things like pronouns in sig blocks, positive space ambassadors and some other things help continue on a 180 from that, then why not? I don't think it should be an advantage, but I'm not going to pretend that people aren't being disadvantaged for who they are or what colour their skin is, so it's not a meritocracy now, and not going to pretend it is.

 

[Good2Golf]

I wonder why we are so wrapped around the axle about being told what to do by the nefarious WEF, or woke elites, or etc, etc; yet we seem to be perfectly happy to be constantly manipulated by GM, Ford, BMW, Nabisco, Microsoft, Amazon…

Can’t believe you forgot Monsanto and Pfizer…