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The War in Ukraine
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Lol, just imagine the poor watch Cpl at the Whitehorse RCMP detachment.
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We're not clean. Trump came in, convicted felon etc, WTF?
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This looks like a disaster in the making.
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Despicable: Very Effectively Done
Trump Hands Putin A Win-Win Scenario, Which Was Always The Plan
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The whole idea that Trump would ever sanction or be tough on Russia was a sham from the start. Trump never had any intention of doing anything to harm or even slightly weaken Putin—far from it. The American president has been entirely consistent and loyal to Putin, and has been working assiduously to get the Russian dictator the best possible deal. He has always wanted to see Ukrainian land transferred to Putin, to make sure Ukraine was kept out of NATO and had no US security guarantees, to have Putin exonerated from the war crime charge and, crucially to have economic sanctions on Russia almost entirely (or even entirely) relaxed.
All his seeming inconsistencies (which were not inconsistencies) were aimed at achieving such a deal for Putin. First, Trump tried to bully the Ukrainians generally and President Zelensky in particular into taking this “deal”. The humiliating meeting at the White House was the key moment in that strategy—though the Ukrainians resisted and Europeans were showing what must have been worrying signs of independence from the USA in reaction.
So Trump pivoted, skilfully it must be admitted, and acted like he never meant any of that, that he was eager now to get tough on Putin, that he really wanted to help Ukraine, and that the USA could be a reliable defense partner for Europe. This was all built on the supposed notion that he was appalled at the Russian attacks on Ukrainian civilians—which should have been a tell. Sociopaths do not care about other people.
However, Trump’s “pivot” was taken seriously by far too many. We were told that crippling sanctions were coming on Russia, that Trump was going to apply brutal pressure on Putin, than weapons were going to start flowing in large quantities to Ukraine to help the Ukrainians turn the tide on the battlefield. Such narratives were spread far and wide, egged on by Trump himself who could drop a tweet on Truth social or make a side remark from the Oval Office and people would lose their minds.
In fact last week this sham reached its high points. We were assured that Trump had a new deadline (yesterday, Friday 8 August) which would trigger the most awesome sanctions on Russia. And guess what. On the evening of 7 August the Russians attacked Ukrainian civilians in Bucha and Odesa—the kind of attack that they have been doing for years—and Trump rewarded Putin with a summit meeting in Alaska.
And stories started circulating that Trump was working with Putin to cement in the Russian’s territorial conquests, etc etc.
It was a laugh in the face/spit in the eye to all of those who repeated the lie that he was now going to be tough on Putin.
What we will see emerge from Alaska will almost certainly be a catastrophe for Ukraine and Europe. Trump and Putin will cook up a brilliant deal for Russia. It will involve the ceding of a great deal of Ukraine’s legally recognized territory to Russia, no security guarantees of any value—certainly no NATO membership—for Ukraine, and the relaxation if not immediate end of all existing sanctions on Russia.
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Doesn't sound like the most important party in all of this is being consulted, yet again. Shaping up to be another attempt at painting the Ukrainian people as the roadblock.
www.theguardian.com
EDIT: Believe it or not, it's just more incompetence.
Ukraine will not give up land, Zelenskyy warns ahead of Trump-Putin meeting
Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismisses remarks by US president, who said end to war will involve ‘some swapping of territories’ before announcing meeting
www.theguardian.com
EDIT: Believe it or not, it's just more incompetence.
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No real shock
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$62B deficit, five months early: Russia’s economy runs on fumes
Russia’s 2025 budget deficit hit $62B by July — 25% over its annual target. The Kremlin faces mounting pressure, but won’t cut war spending.
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On top of stealing children, if only there was a term in English that describes this kind of thing. 
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Undercounted and erased: The world has underestimated how many civilians Russia has killed in Ukraine
Leaving a permanent stain on the reputation of the New York Times, Pulitzer laureate Walter Duranty wrote in 1933: "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs." The Soviet experiment was the omelette. The eggs were millions of Ukrainians deliberately starved by Moscow for wanting freedom...
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Russia Starts to Draft Mariupol Men Who Accepted Russian Passports
Men in Russian-occupied Mariupol are summoned for military service as Russia shifts to year-round conscription, raising concerns among residents.
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There has been movement noticed of a bunch of ancient T-72A's that have been rotting out in the open for decades. I wonder how many are even suitable enough to be restored enough to be made into assault sheds.
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Russia revives 1,000 rusty T-72A tanks from Siberia for war
50-year-old T-72A tanks are back in fashion in the Russian military as newer tanks get demolished in Ukraine.
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We western observers often forget or fail to understand how the memory of the Holodomor informs the Ukrainian response to Russia. I know I do.On top of stealing children, if only there was a term in English that describes this kind of thing.
Undercounted and erased: The world has underestimated how many civilians Russia has killed in Ukraine
Leaving a permanent stain on the reputation of the New York Times, Pulitzer laureate Walter Duranty wrote in 1933: "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs." The Soviet experiment was the omelette. The eggs were millions of Ukrainians deliberately starved by Moscow for wanting freedom...
Russia Starts to Draft Mariupol Men Who Accepted Russian Passports
Men in Russian-occupied Mariupol are summoned for military service as Russia shifts to year-round conscription, raising concerns among residents.
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If you follow the vehicle losses, in the last few months the T-62 and T-54/55’s have vastly outpaced the T-72 and T-80 destructions, until this month where the T-72 was back on top in the turret popping Olympics.There has been movement noticed of a bunch of ancient T-72A's that have been rotting out in the open for decades. I wonder how many are even suitable enough to be restored enough to be made into assault sheds.
Russia revives 1,000 rusty T-72A tanks from Siberia for war
50-year-old T-72A tanks are back in fashion in the Russian military as newer tanks get demolished in Ukraine.
Some of the RuAF telegram channels have been complaining about the state of recently received AFV’s how many don’t have radios, or have broken/damaged fire control etc.
So one can presume that many if not most of the T-72 scrapyard tanks have been ‘rebuilt’ to a bare runs and shoots’ish condition.
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Well it looks like there will be NK MBT's on the loss list soon.
www.japantimes.co.jp
Ukraine war has transformed North Korean military: Kyiv’s military intel chief
Pyongyang’s alliance with Moscow gives it critical battlefield experience and access to advanced weapons, at the same time making it more unpredictable.
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A sobering read.Well it looks like there will be NK MBT's on the loss list soon.
Ukraine war has transformed North Korean military: Kyiv’s military intel chief
Pyongyang’s alliance with Moscow gives it critical battlefield experience and access to advanced weapons, at the same time making it more unpredictable.
Have to wonder if SK will be forced to reduce their exports of military equipment in order to shift production for their own needs as NK continues to increase in its capabilities.
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Now here's a great example of 'lessons learned' in action...
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A better method for all that money and effort would be giving the Ukrainians more equipment and training...
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If that was some fortifications being built in Bavaria, I’d agree but since it’s being built in Finland, a frontline state against Russia, I’m giving them kudos for preparing for the worst.
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