The War in Ukraine

[lenaitch]

So the US will ignore the ICC Arrest Warrant against Putin and allow him to travel to the US next week.

Unreal.

I’ve love it if somehow his plane was forced to land in the Yukon and he sent his ass off to Den Hague.

The US has never recognized the jurisdiction of the ICC.

My money is on a 2 week extension

 

[brihard]

So the US will ignore the ICC Arrest Warrant against Putin and allow him to travel to the US next week.

Unreal.

I’ve love it if somehow his plane was forced to land in the Yukon and he sent his ass off to Den Hague.

Lol, just imagine the poor watch Cpl at the Whitehorse RCMP detachment.

 

[Maxman1]

Lol, just imagine the poor watch Cpl at the Whitehorse RCMP detachment.

Unless he decides this:

 

[ueo]

So the US will ignore the ICC Arrest Warrant against Putin and allow him to travel to the US next week.

Unreal.

I’ve love it if somehow his plane was forced to land in the Yukon and he sent his ass off to Den Hague.

We're not clean. Trump came in, convicted felon etc, WTF?

 

[RangerRay]

This looks like a disaster in the making.

Despicable: Very Effectively Done

Trump Hands Putin A Win-Win Scenario, Which Was Always The Plan

phillipspobrien.substack.com

The whole idea that Trump would ever sanction or be tough on Russia was a sham from the start. Trump never had any intention of doing anything to harm or even slightly weaken Putin—far from it. The American president has been entirely consistent and loyal to Putin, and has been working assiduously to get the Russian dictator the best possible deal. He has always wanted to see Ukrainian land transferred to Putin, to make sure Ukraine was kept out of NATO and had no US security guarantees, to have Putin exonerated from the war crime charge and, crucially to have economic sanctions on Russia almost entirely (or even entirely) relaxed.

All his seeming inconsistencies (which were not inconsistencies) were aimed at achieving such a deal for Putin. First, Trump tried to bully the Ukrainians generally and President Zelensky in particular into taking this “deal”. The humiliating meeting at the White House was the key moment in that strategy—though the Ukrainians resisted and Europeans were showing what must have been worrying signs of independence from the USA in reaction.

So Trump pivoted, skilfully it must be admitted, and acted like he never meant any of that, that he was eager now to get tough on Putin, that he really wanted to help Ukraine, and that the USA could be a reliable defense partner for Europe. This was all built on the supposed notion that he was appalled at the Russian attacks on Ukrainian civilians—which should have been a tell. Sociopaths do not care about other people.

However, Trump’s “pivot” was taken seriously by far too many. We were told that crippling sanctions were coming on Russia, that Trump was going to apply brutal pressure on Putin, than weapons were going to start flowing in large quantities to Ukraine to help the Ukrainians turn the tide on the battlefield. Such narratives were spread far and wide, egged on by Trump himself who could drop a tweet on Truth social or make a side remark from the Oval Office and people would lose their minds.

In fact last week this sham reached its high points. We were assured that Trump had a new deadline (yesterday, Friday 8 August) which would trigger the most awesome sanctions on Russia. And guess what. On the evening of 7 August the Russians attacked Ukrainian civilians in Bucha and Odesa—the kind of attack that they have been doing for years—and Trump rewarded Putin with a summit meeting in Alaska.





And stories started circulating that Trump was working with Putin to cement in the Russian’s territorial conquests, etc etc.

It was a laugh in the face/spit in the eye to all of those who repeated the lie that he was now going to be tough on Putin.

What we will see emerge from Alaska will almost certainly be a catastrophe for Ukraine and Europe. Trump and Putin will cook up a brilliant deal for Russia. It will involve the ceding of a great deal of Ukraine’s legally recognized territory to Russia, no security guarantees of any value—certainly no NATO membership—for Ukraine, and the relaxation if not immediate end of all existing sanctions on Russia.

 

[HavokFour]

Doesn't sound like the most important party in all of this is being consulted, yet again. Shaping up to be another attempt at painting the Ukrainian people as the roadblock.

Ukraine will not give up land, Zelenskyy warns ahead of Trump-Putin meeting

Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismisses remarks by US president, who said end to war will involve ‘some swapping of territories’ before announcing meeting

www.theguardian.com

EDIT: Believe it or not, it's just more incompetence.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1954103986241286437