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The War in Ukraine

KevinB said:
Reported US proposal as opposed to joint Ukraine and European proposal
https://twitter.com/x/status/1915776534759055761
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What's stopping everyone outside of the US to keep the sanctions against Russia in place? The EU can easily say, nope, we are not going to allow Russian goods to be imported into the EU at this time and we are not going to allow EU domiciled companies to export to Russia or to any third country for re-export to Russia. What's stopping the EU to keeping their skies closed to Russian civilian aircraft? What's stopping them from continuing the status quo?
If Trump wants to deal with the Russian's, let him. He's free to do so, it doesn't mean that we and the EU have to follow along. Canada can easily keep its airspace closed to Russian civilian aircraft, as can Poland, the Baltics, Finland, Sweden, etc. We don't have to follow along with the US.
 
Czech_pivo said:
What's stopping everyone outside of the US to keep the sanctions against Russia in place? The EU can easily say, nope, we are not going to allow Russian goods to be imported into the EU at this time and we are not going to allow EU domiciled companies to export to Russia or to any third country for re-export to Russia. What's stopping the EU to keeping their skies closed to Russian civilian aircraft? What's stopping them from continuing the status quo?
If Trump wants to deal with the Russian's, let him. He's free to do so, it doesn't mean that we and the EU have to follow along. Canada can easily keep its airspace closed to Russian civilian aircraft, as can Poland, the Baltics, Finland, Sweden, etc. We don't have to follow along with the US.
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I agree with you on the Euro front.

But the Canadian-NORAD-NATO-JEF-Greenland issue is messy as f*ck.
 
Kirkhill said:
I agree with you on the Euro front.

But the Canadian-NORAD-NATO-JEF-Greenland issue is messy as f*ck.
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Transport Canada just doesn’t sign off on the paperwork for Russian planes to fly in Canadian air space. They slow walk the re-certification process for them, they find as many ways as possible to slow the process down to glacier speed.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
Wonder what Russia's proposal is?

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Don't worry they will do a sham referendum after a ceasefire too, which of course will be in favor of leaving Ukraine because they spent the last 3 years shipping out Ukrainians and shipping in Russians to resettle thr regions they occupy. It's been russias play book for over 100 years
 
MilEME09 said:
Don't worry they will do a sham referendum after a ceasefire too, which of course will be in favor of leaving Ukraine because they spent the last 3 years shipping out Ukrainians and shipping in Russians to resettle thr regions they occupy. It's been russias play book for over 100 years
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As Stalin allegedly said, it doesn’t matter who votes, it only matter who counts the votes
 
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