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Tips on how to become a recruit

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In my experience in Basic at Cornwallis we were too busy to bitch about who had to do more push ups or sit ups etc.  We worked together so that those that cooperated to functioning as a group got through.  I don't remember any whining about females' PT requirements versus males etc.  Furthermore, what could female PT requirements possibly have to do with me as a male?  As long as everyone pulled their weight in general, all was fine.  Negative attitudes were expressed by members of both sexes, albeit more males seemed bitchy, but that was likely due to the male/female ratio.  Good luck to all at BMQ and hopefully everyone focuses on what is necessary to get through together. :)
 
Panzer_grenadier_1944 said:
This sucks , I can't join the reserves because the closest reserve unit is 1 hour away and because gas is so expensive I'll end up spending any money I'll make in the reserve on gas (not that money is the sole motivater to join the reseves), and my dad dosen't want to drive me out every 1-2 weeks, and I can't go with anyone else from my town

There's an additional per-kilometer travel allowance if you live more then a certain distance from your unit of employment (An hours drive would certainly be more then enough of the distance).
 
I'm not sure if there is a bus route , if there is , it isn't doing the route when I need to go to reserve meetings every 1-2 weeks.
 
Hello, im not sure if my questions have been answered. Im fifteen going onto sixteen soon and my passion is military and stuff like that. Ive been counting down the days till i can join the reserves. I also have been training every day, such as push ups sit ups running a couple miles. Is there anything that will make my odds better of getting in such as anything that will look good on the application form?

Im not even sure if Reserves will conflict with school. Im going to the Recruitment center in 3 days. But if i can get some help here that will be good too.

Chris
 
hallo,
l wont my brother to be enrolled as army man in your country .By the way we are from Ghana
 
kesse said:
hallo,
l wont my brother to be enrolled as army man in your country .By the way we are from Ghana

You have to be a Canadian citizen.
 
Hi, I am also intrested in joining the army, but i'm not sure of the whole pressess. Thank you to the person who started this "Tips on how to become a recruit." any tips about the medical section.?
Camia
 
Here ill throw this one out to you guys...

Ready?

Alright... im 19 years of age , fit , can run well , work out every day and can lift a heft amount of weight. I am , yes * sigh * an " army brat " as they call it and was born into the military. Both parents and sibling .. military. So , here I am wanting to join. Whats stopping me?! lol. I work with EME as a Mechanic , apprentice right now as a civi.. so Im a ' shoe in  right? I did the whole air cadet crap for 5 years and made it to Warrent 2nd class.

I am wanting to go infantry ( i know i know.. i hear the dont do it , you're too tiny blah blah blah bs ) I want to.. no , im NOT and REFUSE to go clerk despite the fact I can type about 88 wpm. I want the infantry so bad I can taste it. I go , finally , to the recruit centre in WPG this Friday.

Any advice guys!? Where to start , right from the begining ( even Friday ). I want to be on course this summer ( July / August ). My ultimate goal being 3vp , para. So?? Anything guys?!

Let me know , or even add me to msn , other then my entire families perspective i'd love some feedback from some people who have been in the same position I am in right now.


Thanks tons!!!  ;)

aMy
 
Since you work on CFB Shilo; do you know anyone in 2VP? Talk to them, so you can get an idea of what the Infantry is like. Theres also a few threads on the forum about the training/courses, etc that the Infantry does, might wanna check those out.

Don't count on getting 3VP to much though, cause you could just as easily go 1 or 2VP. My brother wanted 3VP, requested it an he got sent to 2, he's also done a few memos wanting to transfer to 3VP but, he's still there.
 
Hey, i have a few questions, I want to know, what is the basic training like. I read about chin ups and i can't do any, does this meen , i can't do basic training. So yeah , i just want to know what to expect, i am 6"1 265lbs, am i going to drop to like 200???
thanks and e-mail me you reply at michael_A_gorman@hotmail.com
thanks

Mike
 
You do chinups during recruit training, however their were some in my class that had trouble doing 1. Do your hardest, as well they count chinups on week 9 I believe to find out whose the best athlete, its not pass or fail.
 
mechanic_chick said:
Here ill throw this one out to you guys...

Alright... im 19 years of age , fit , can run well , work out every day and can lift a heft amount of weight. I am , yes * sigh * an " army brat " as they call it and was born into the military. Both parents and sibling .. military. So , here I am wanting to join. Whats stopping me?! lol. I work with EME as a Mechanic , apprentice right now as a civi.. so Im a ' shoe in  right? I did the whole air cadet crap for 5 years and made it to Warrent 2nd class.


aMy

I might be wrong (been a while since I was on course for sure) but...

you might want to be careful who you tell about being an army brat while you are on training... depending on what your folks/sib does - the staff or your coursemates may give you a hard time over it.

Same goes for the cadet training.
I watched a Sgt give extra drill to a group of recruits once just cause they were talking about how they already knew drill (they'd been cadets)...

I might be wrong but unless things have changed it is probably best to keep whatever advantage you may have a quiet one while on your initial training anyway  ;)

 
as was once told to me by a wise old Corporal. "sometimes on course it pays to be the Grey-Man/Woman"

keep in mind, that doesnt mean slack off, it just means do your job properly, be a good troop, and dont make problems for yourself.
 
mechanic_chick said:
and whats my PT requirements???

9 pushups, 15 situps, 50 kg hand grip (combined left and right), and under 14:26 minutes for a 2.4 km run.
 
All the requirements are listed on the recruiting site, here is the link http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/media/pdf/physical_fitness_en.pdf

 
Im sure You'll do fine on course...

in a nutshell the greyman just knows the art of keeping his ears open and his mouth shut.

If youve been living around the army life for this long you'll understand exactly what is ment by that

Cheers
 
9 pushups, 15 situps, 50 kg hand grip (combined left and right), and under 14:26 minutes for a 2.4 km run.

Remember that when you do basic the females have to do the same 25 pushups as everybody else. Get as fit as possible so that basic can go by that easier and you don't get yelled at by instructors for having poor form.
 
I'm going to stress this again, if you don't pass the physical fitness test to get IN the Canadian Forces you can't even become a recruit.

3 people I know who I have been mentoring (sorta) just failed their test.  They have to wait to get into the Canadian Forces because they didn't listen to a simple instruction. Had they listened they WOULD have passed.  What was it?

Work out and practice.

It's easy for people to come on here and say oh wow gee it's only 19 push ups anyone can do that. Guys get it in their head ya thats easy I can do that.  Girls get it in their head I only have to do 9, ya thats easy.
Wrong
It's easy for some people, harder for others.  Guys and girls, if you don't do those 19 and 9 push ups *to* the liking of whoever is testing you then you will have to keep doing them until you get them right.  I've seen a guys 19 push ups turn into almost 30.  He failed. He could do 19 push ups his way but he couldn't do them the army way.  Dumb? Maybe but he still failed.
I've been trying to help my friends fiance join. Someone told him he only has to do the easy step test, why even bother working out he's to busy.
Failed.  His heart rate was too high because he was so out of shape. He's a skinny guy too. You look at him and he looks very athletic. Being skinny doesn't mean your in shape.
3rd friend. I kept telling her to run. Work out. Shes skinny, athletic. She felt she didn't have to worry about anything. She was going to pass no problem.  Failed in a bad way.
All these guys failed because they thought they could breeze through. They heard how easy it was and didn't feel like they had to worry about it.
When you guys fail this stuff the only person to blame is you.  The minute you decide "I am going to apply to the Canadian Forces" start working out.
Push ups, sit ups and jogging.  That little bit right there will be the deciding factor whether you become a soldier or not.  Don't just think you'll breeze by no matter how in shape you think you are.
 
I have pasted the original message I sent to 'Kincanucks' for the benefit of others. I thought this was a better way to communicate so others with similar questions can contribute to the discussion. Kincanucks, Thankyou for the information yesterday, it is much appreciated.

One more question...will it affect my CF application if I apply for RCMP in the mean while? I always have to keep in mind that even after my Pre-Sec comes back without any flags of any sort (Never had a problem with the law, No drugs, No involvement with any organzations ..anything of that sort), which might be two or three years down the road,  I still have to face the fact that there are only a limited number of officer intakes and I am sure there are hundreds if not thousands of other candidates who might be more qualified than me; even though I feel I am suitable to become an officer in the CF and it is my dream and my first career preference.

As a backup I would like to apply to the RCMP and other city police, therefore my question is whether it will affect my chances of getting into the CF. The reason I ask this question is that the CF will come to know that I have applied to the RCMP and will it make them question my seriousness of joining the CF.

Any input is appreciated.

Re: Pre-Sec and Selection board
« Sent to: AERE_wannabe on: Yesterday at 23:42:28 » Quote Reply Remove 

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1.  I have not seen a pre-sec from a Non-NATO country take less than one year to complete.

2. If you read my post it says that there will be continuous selection of DEOs until IAP/BOTPs and occupations are filled with no more need for set board dates.  It doesn't mean there is no more selection of DEOs it means there will be no more set board dates so files can be sent in at any time.


Hello Sir:

I have two questions and would appreciate if you could answer them. I have searched the forums but could'nt find the answers.

My Background: I have applied as DEO Aerospace Engineering. Passed the CFAT, and had to fill the Pre-Sec form. 31 Yrs Old.

1. My first question is regarding the waiting period for the Pre-Sec to be completed. I was born in India and that is where my Bachelors Degree in Engineering is from. I have lived in Canada for the past 8 yrs. So my question is that in your experience what is the shortest time that a pre-sec was completed from a non-Nato country? Many of the threads suggest a minimum wait time of 18 months. So is it 18 months no matter what?, or is there any hope it could be less. I havent travelled to any other country since i have been in Canada; would that matter at all in the investigation that CSIS conducts?

I was hoping to get some insight into whether there were instances when a Pre-Sec was completed within a shorter period than 18 months when the applicant was from a non-Nato country. I am really eager to serve my country and do not mind waiting at all; and as a matter of fact support the increased scrutiny of applicants who have'nt lived in Canada for the past 10 years. But as a good soldier I like to get as much information as possible so I can plan the next few years, while I wait.

I called the recruiting centre last week and the very helpful clerk said that my file is ready to be sent to Ottawa; so that is officially the start of my waiting period.

2. My second question is not really a concern until the above is resolved, but it pertains to my chosen field. In the quote below that I got from another of your threads it mentions that there will be no selection boards for DEO applicants for "non-specialist occupations". Is DEO AERE a "non-specialist occupation"? So does that mean there will be no more selection boards for DEO applicants at all?, or is this a temporary measure?

"It has been decided by CFRG HQ that the requirement to hold DEO selection boards on fixed dates for "non-specialist occupations" those occupations that do not require specialist boards (NOAB, MPAC, etc) are no longer necessary.  Therefore starting 15 Apr 06 will be the date that CFRG will do its first round of selection for "non-specialist occupations" (everything but MARS, MPO and Legal) and approximately every six weeks after that there will another selection cycle until the IAP/BOTPs in Sep/Jan are filled.  The way it will work is that when the file is ready (everything is completed: CFAT, Interview, ERC, PT, Med, etc) for a non-specialist officer occupation it will be merit listed and it will be immediately sent to CFRG HQ for consdieration"

Thankyou in advance sir, your posts are very informative and I enjoy reading them greatly.
 
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