Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Remius]

A civil war this time will likely break us apart as well.

Strangely it strengthened Canada last time.

 

[Good2Golf]

Strangely it strengthened pre-Canada last time.

 

[OldSolduer]

Possibly.

And therein lies the CAF nexus - despite our political differences, I think that the CAF would be in the side of “don’t break the country apart”.

I agree - but there are always those who would side with separitists.

I would be torn...seriously torn. Civil wars are often the most brutal.

 

[Remius]

Was still a catalyst that led to confederation and an increased national attitude.

 

[Good2Golf]

Was still a catalyst that led to confederation and an increased national attitude.

True, but I’m always mindful of not overly-crediting “Canada” for things like….burning down the White House.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Freeland may be positioning herself for a leadership run.

I doubt it.

Freeland now has an albatross around her neck that one does not easily free themselves from.

A rebuilt LPC is definitely going to be one purged from the Trudeau branding. Otherwise it will see defeat after defeat like the Bob Rae NDP in Ontario.

 

[QV]

I doubt it.

Freeland now has an albatross around her neck that one does not easily free themselves from.

A rebuilt LPC is definitely going to be one purged from the Trudeau branding. Otherwise it will see defeat after defeat like the Bob Rae NDP in Ontario.

That is my first instinct. Though I can't figure out why she remains an MP. Others before her resigned completely. Maybe she wants to vote non-confidence at first opportunity?

 

[rmc_wannabe]

That is my first instinct. Though I can't figure out why she remains an MP. Others before her resigned completely. Maybe she wants to vote non-confidence at first opportunity?

No idea. She might feel she has the support of caucus to stick it out. Moreso that PMJT no longer holds the groupthink power to make her a pariah like JWR or Jean Philpot

 

[Fishbone Jones]

No one with even a small portion of functioning grey cells would want to have anything to do with LPC

We're talking freeland. What's your point?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

True, but I’m always mindful of not overly-crediting “Canada” for things like….burning down the White House.

British who sailed from Bermuda did that.

 

[Remius]

No idea. She might feel she has the support of caucus to stick it out. Moreso that PMJT no longer holds the groupthink power to make her a pariah like JWR or Jean Philpot

She knows he won’t be in the picture much longer. This was a smart move on her part. Not saying she will be successful but she may have revived what was a sinking political career.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I doubt it.

Freeland now has an albatross around her neck that one does not easily free themselves from.

A rebuilt LPC is definitely going to be one purged from the Trudeau branding. Otherwise it will see defeat after defeat like the Bob Rae NDP in Ontario.

They don't seem to learn though, do they?

 

[dapaterson]

But hey, if Trudeau is at the “giving no shits” mode, he should publicly say that comment about WA, OR, and CA as the 11th through 13th provinces on or about 19 Jan, and see Trump’s reactions. Because hey, it’s all jokes, right?

All three voted for Harris. He might be happy to see them gone.

 

[Remius]

True, but I’m always mindful of not overly-crediting “Canada” for things like….burning down the White House.

Sure. That wasn’t a case of over crediting Canada for anything though Just simple facts that “Canada” benefited from a fractured US and its civil war.

 

[Remius]

British who sailed from Bermuda did that.

Maybe someone should educate Trump. He certainly thought it was Canadians…

https://web.archive.org/web/20240307061817/https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html

 

[RangerRay]

Even in better times, I had heard that Freeland didn’t want the leadership. I think she realizes that she’s a terrible politician, but is happy to stick it out in a riding where a ham sandwich would get elected as a Liberal.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Maybe someone should educate Trump. He certainly thought it was Canadians…

https://web.archive.org/web/20240307061817/https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html

I like the idea of Trump being afraid of the Constitutional Monarchy perched on their northern border, thirsting for revenge

 

[OldSolduer]

Even in better times, I had heard that Freeland didn’t want the leadership. I think she realizes that she’s a terrible politician, but is happy to stick it out in a riding where a ham sandwich would get elected as a Liberal.

I think she had deluded herself long enough and realized "Dear Justin" is a pox on Canada. Her brand is shot - she will be forever remembered as part of "that" bunch including Miller and Eco Boi

 

[Jarnhamar]

At risk of bleeding over to another thread, my issue with this is that no one knows how much of a joke he thinks this is.

But hey, if Trudeau is at the “giving no shits” mode, he should publicly say that comment about WA, OR, and CA as the 11th through 13th provinces on or about 19 Jan, and see Trump’s reactions. Because hey, it’s all jokes, right?

I guess the joke is those states didn’t vote for him. Trump has Canada shaking in their Uggs over his threat of tariffs . I'm not sure that jab is the haymaker redditors think it is.

it's amazing people still have anything but contempt for JT.

He was just smugly lamenting about a Harris loss being a setback for progressive Women while bragging of how much of a feminist he is. Meanwhile he fires his dog-loyal female fiance minister aiming to replace her with yet another rich old white male. Crazy.

 

[Good2Golf]

Maybe someone should educate Trump. He certainly thought it was Canadians…

https://web.archive.org/web/20240307061817/https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html

His fact checkers may have neglected to check the White House Historical Association’s info page on the subject:

Why is the White House white?

White paint has nothing to do with covering the burning of the house by the British in 1814. The building was first made...

www.whitehousehistory.org

White paint has nothing to do with covering the burning of the house by the British in 1814.

Her brand is shot - she will be forever remembered as part of "that" bunch including Miller and Eco Boi

Actually, I think she’ll be remembered for suggesting Canadians tighten their belts and cancel their Disney+ subscription…