Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[RangerRay]

I can’t remember if it was this thread or another one, but someone was losing their mind that about 33% either wanted Trudeau to stay on as PM or didn’t know/didn’t have an opinion.

But I think they’re missing a reason why some of them want Trudeau to stay on.

IMHO, if Trudeau is still PM and leader of the LPC, then I think that’s the best shot of the CPC of getting a whopping majority.

I think a number of the “want JT to stay” polled were actually CPC supporters. I’m sure many of those polled who want him gone are LPC supporters who think the LPC has a better chance of saving the furniture with a new leader.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I can’t remember if it was this thread or another one, but someone was losing their mind that about 33% either wanted Trudeau to stay on as PM or didn’t know/didn’t have an opinion.

But I think they’re missing a reason why some of them want Trudeau to stay on.

IMHO, if Trudeau is still PM and leader of the LPC, then I think that’s the best shot of the CPC of getting a whopping majority.

I think a number of the “want JT to stay” polled were actually CPC supporters. I’m sure many of those polled who want him gone are LPC supporters who think the LPC has a better chance of saving the furniture with a new leader.

Possible, but traditionally Conservatives don't participate in polls. At least not like other parties. I think the CPC is going to win a whopping majority no matter who's in charge of this dysfunctional liberal government. Trudeau is definitely the lightning rod but I think there's enough wankers left that people still won't be enamored towards voting for the liberals.

 

[mariomike]

A friend of ours is a retired Air Hag (her term, not mine) for Jazz.

Jazz was a subsidiary that operated as a regional airline. ( Canada and U.S. ).

 

[dapaterson]

Jazz was a subsidiary that operated as a regional airline. ( Canada and U.S. ).

Jazz is a fully owned subsidiary of Chorus Aviation that operates regional flights, primarily for Air Canada, under the Air Canada Express branding. Still in operation; Big Red just changed the branding.

 

[mariomike]

ok

Our daughter is Air Canada Mainline.

But, started with Air Canada Rouge.

 

[OldSolduer]

I can’t remember if it was this thread or another one, but someone was losing their mind that about 33% either wanted Trudeau to stay on as PM or didn’t know/didn’t have an opinion.

But I think they’re missing a reason why some of them want Trudeau to stay on.

IMHO, if Trudeau is still PM and leader of the LPC, then I think that’s the best shot of the CPC of getting a whopping majority.

I think a number of the “want JT to stay” polled were actually CPC supporters. I’m sure many of those polled who want him gone are LPC supporters who think the LPC has a better chance of saving the furniture with a new leader.

Never interrupt an enemy when they are making a grievous error.....

 

[RangerRay]

According to Philippe Lagasse, our system is working as it should. The problem is our politicians now lack honour.

A Question of Honour

Our system of government flounders when leaders aren't 'good chaps'.

lagassep.substack.com

 

[Kirkhill]

According to Philippe Lagasse, our system is working as it should. The problem is our politicians now lack honour.

A Question of Honour

Our system of government flounders when leaders aren't 'good chaps'.

lagassep.substack.com

A clue to the Good Chap culture that sustained the honourable system.

Famous Canadian Masons

www.durhamlodge66.com

MacDonald, Abbott, Bowell, Borden, Bennett, Diefenbaker - all Masons, as were Tommy Douglas, George Drew and Bill Davis.

Not many Liberal Masons.

...

Masons also found in Australian, New Zealand, US and UK Government as well as the Monarchy.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

A clue to the Good Chap culture that sustained the honourable system.

Famous Canadian Masons

www.durhamlodge66.com

MacDonald, Abbott, Bowell, Borden, Bennett, Diefenbaker - all Masons, as were Tommy Douglas, George Drew and Bill Davis.

Not many Liberal Masons.

...

Masons also found in Australian, New Zealand, US and UK Government as well as the Monarchy.

They missed Chief Joseph Brant

Masonic Biographies | Joseph Brant

Joseph Brant was Chief of the Mohawk Tribe and the Six Nations Indian Confederation, as well as a Freemason and devout member of the Church of England.

www.universalfreemasonry.org

 

[JLB50]

They missed Chief Joseph Brant

Masonic Biographies | Joseph Brant

Joseph Brant was Chief of the Mohawk Tribe and the Six Nations Indian Confederation, as well as a Freemason and devout member of the Church of England.

www.universalfreemasonry.org

Chief Joseph Brant, Freemason, Devout Member of the Church of England and, last but not least, Slaveholder.

 

[daftandbarmy]

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[Fishbone Jones]

last but not least, Slaveholder.

I assume the whole reason for your post was to make sure the slavery portion made it in there, considering you capitalized it. Slavery was common practice amongst all aboriginals, in North America, at the time and for the thousands of years prior.

As a matter of fact, almost every nation that has existed, and its people were involved in slavery at one time or another.

The takeaway is that most of us got over it, including the Mohawks.

 

[Good2Golf]

I assume the whole reason for your post was to make sure the slavery portion made it in there, considering you capitalized it. Slavery was common practice amongst all aboriginals, in North America, at the time and for the thousands of years prior.

As a matter of fact, almost every nation that has existed, and its people were involved in slavery at one time or another.

The takeaway is that most of us got over it, including the Mohawks.

Indigenous slavery was interestingly something that British colonists on the West Coast worked to influence a reduction/elimination.

https://www.uvic.ca/humanities/history/assets/docs/white-conner.pdf

Also of note was that American treaties in the Northwest mandate that indigenous populations party to the Treaty had to cease indigenous slavery.

 

[JLB50]

I assume the whole reason for your post was to make sure the slavery portion made it in there, considering you capitalized it. Slavery was common practice amongst all aboriginals, in North America, at the time and for the thousands of years prior.

As a matter of fact, almost every nation that has existed, and its people were involved in slavery at one time or another.

The takeaway is that most of us got over it, including the Mohawks.

FJ, the bone I have to pick is that so many of those who are Woke only go after white men who have been associated with slavery, even those who did their best (e.g. Henry Dundas) to outlaw it. Having said that, I wasn’t trying to belittle the achievements of Chief Brant…just to draw attention to the fact that, like Sir John A. MacDonald, Egerton Ryerson and others, there were those who weren’t white who were also less than perfect. Sorry if I gave my message the wrong tone.

Yes, most have gotten over it.

 

[daftandbarmy]

FJ, the bone I have to pick is that so many of those who are Woke only go after white men who have been associated with slavery, even those who did their best (e.g. Henry Dundas) to outlaw it. Having said that, I wasn’t trying to belittle the achievements of Chief Brant…just to draw attention to the fact that, like Sir John A. MacDonald, Egerton Ryerson and others, there were those who weren’t white who were also less than perfect. Sorry if I gave my message the wrong tone.

Yes, most have gotten over it.

An interesting, and lesser known, feature of the slave trade...

Fellow Africans' Role in the Slave Trade​

Another downplayed factor is the central role played by ruling African states in the capture and sale of fellow Africans to European traders—an estimated 90 percent of all captives. The main motivation behind these transactions was the acquisition of guns for use in inter-ethnic warfare. The enslaved were abducted from as far north as present-day Senegal to as far south as Angola, and transported to destinations as far south as Argentina and as far north as New England.

How the Trans‑Atlantic Slave Trade Created the African Diaspora | HISTORY

The forced transport of enslaved people from Africa created populations of Black people throughout North and South America and other parts of the world.

www.history.com

 

[RangerRay]

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[FSTO]

Just listened to a podcast (Globe and Mail’s “The Decibel”) about why Trudeau won’t go. What struck me most is that the Premier’s staff that drove the Ontario Liberal Party into the ground is the same crew who are now driving the Liberal Party of Canada off a cliff.

I guess Katie and crew have a Götterdämmerung complex?