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Trump administration 2024-2028

I wonder what would happen if we loaded all the people making irregular crossings at Roxham Road on to a C-17 and flew across the border and requested a landing slot at JFK?
 
Jarnhamar said:
It's a weird hill to die on.

The US has 3 airforce bases in Colombia. I'm surprised the US didn't just send the flights there then kick the dudes out of the front gates.
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They won’t die on it. Colombia and the U.S. will each substitute some trade away from each other. The U.S. actually has a modest ~$3b trade surplus with Colombia. It will hurt a bit but won’t cripple anyone. Let’s not forget that Trump is threatening to tariff pretty much everyone; Americans will have to get their coffee somewhere.

I read the BBC story again - I think it updated - And the thing about the presidential plain was NOT bullshit; it was in fact offered. I guess Colombia is willing to facilitate the return of its nationals deported form the U.S., but not my military airlift? Probably an assertion of sovereignty. I can respect that.
 
FJAG said:
Not in the English based legal system. "Reasonable" is measured by the opinion of the "Man of the Clapham Omnibus."

My concern is that with the advent of social media, the man on the Clapham omnibus is getting progressively dumber.

:giggle:
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Assuming you can find an Omnibus.

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It is actually an interesting point though. Which is more important? The objective truth, held by minority? Or the POGG answer (Peace, Order and Good Governance) that prioritizes the opinion of the majority even when that opinion may be wrong?

And this despite John Stuart Mill.

As you say, English jurisprudence prioritizes the opinion of the Man of the Clapham Omnibus. Anything for a quiet life? Domestically I am reminded of the value of that proposition from time to time.
 
lenaitch said:
On the contrary, much of that land is only made arable by artificial irrigation.
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This is my arena of expertise. In regenerative grazing using holistic management, you can turn most barren deserts into thriving arid grasslands (which have amazing deep roots, high soil carbon and incredible water retention). Use Cattle, Bison, Sheep, Goats, Horse, etc in a managed and adaptive grazing management.
 
Apparently, under President Biden deportations flights to Colombia were a regular feature; not sure if the flights were military or civilian.

Former Tennessee Democratic election commissioner Chris D. Jackson said, "For all the clowns hyping Trump’s move on Colombia: under Biden, Colombia accepted 475 deportation flights—over 120 in 2024 alone. And he didn’t have to show his a-- or start a trade war to do it. He was just that good."
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Link
 
ArmyRick said:
This is my arena of expertise. In regenerative grazing using holistic management, you can turn most barren deserts into thriving arid grasslands (which have amazing deep roots, high soil carbon and incredible water retention). Use Cattle, Bison, Sheep, Goats, Horse, etc in a managed and adaptive grazing management.
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One of the curiousities of my area is that the road from my house to my wife's work in Picture Butte is known as Feed Lot Alley. It is pretty whiff most days. A good chunk of Canada's beef is raised right here.

On a regular basis the feed lots are mucked out. 3 or 4 back hoes. A fleet of dump trucks to move the muck to the fields. Backhoes relocate to the fields and fill the muck spreaders. As I said, it can get kind of whiff. On the other hand that manure fertilizes the crops (hay, oil seed and grain, sugar beets dominate). The straw from the crops is bailed and goes back to the feedlots as litter. Before it is mucked out and put back on the fields. Substandard seed and grain goes to feed.

That reduces the amount of NH4OH that has to be applied.
 
Apparently Colombia isn't the only country refusing to allow US deportation flights to use its airspace. Mexico has refused to allow a US flight to Guatemala to overfly Mexican airspace, forcing it to take the long way around.

www.alternet.org

'So little planning': Experts mock Trump after Mexico refuses to let deportation flight land

For years, Mexico has allowed the United States' deportation flights to cross over its airspace when flying undocumented immigrants back to their home countries without incident. But that's apparently no longer the case, according to a new report.On Friday, NBC News found that Mexico refused a...
www.alternet.org www.alternet.org
 
Kirkhill said:
One of the curiousities of my area is that the road from my house to my wife's work in Picture Butte is known as Feed Lot Alley. It is pretty whiff most days. A good chunk of Canada's beef is raised right here.

On a regular basis the feed lots are mucked out. 3 or 4 back hoes. A fleet of dump trucks to move the muck to the fields. Backhoes relocate to the fields and fill the muck spreaders. As I said, it can get kind of whiff. On the other hand that manure fertilizes the crops (hay, oil seed and grain, sugar beets dominate). The straw from the crops is bailed and goes back to the feedlots as litter. Before it is mucked out and put back on the fields. Substandard seed and grain goes to feed.

That reduces the amount of NH4OH that has to be applied.
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I am very aware of the whole process. It standard across the continent. Its ill not as efficient as running ruminants in pastures, hay fields and even crop lands (cuts down your fuel cost significantly) but there are limitations. Feed lots are needed (because of cites existing) but time reduced in a feedlot is more efficent on fuel and thus cost.
 
Kirkhill said:
One of the curiousities of my area is that the road from my house to my wife's work in Picture Butte is known as Feed Lot Alley. It is pretty whiff most days. A good chunk of Canada's beef is raised right here.

On a regular basis the feed lots are mucked out. 3 or 4 back hoes. A fleet of dump trucks to move the muck to the fields. Backhoes relocate to the fields and fill the muck spreaders. As I said, it can get kind of whiff. On the other hand that manure fertilizes the crops (hay, oil seed and grain, sugar beets dominate). The straw from the crops is bailed and goes back to the feedlots as litter. Before it is mucked out and put back on the fields. Substandard seed and grain goes to feed.

That reduces the amount of NH4OH that has to be applied.
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That's pretty much how farming - cattle that is - was before the various "experts" thought they knew better than people who had been doing this for generations. Add the eco bois and this practice was frowned upon.
 
daftandbarmy said:
Fly them to Vancouver and enlist them in the local construction industry.
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I get the sentiment, but for the next 6 months they are mainly focussed on deporting the likes of MS-13 and similar, plus their offspring and the like. They need to go back home and never come back or even fly North of the Rio Grande.
 
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