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I wonder if the Reagan Foundation will get super pissy about this speech too?

Radio Address to the Nation on the Canadian Elections and Free Trade

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Radio Address to the Nation on the Canadian Elections and Free Trade​

November 26, 1988

My fellow Americans:

This week, as we prepared for Thanksgiving, Canada held an important election, and I'm pleased to again send my congratulations to Prime Minister Mulroney. One of the important issues in the Canadian election was trade. And like our own citizens earlier this month, our neighbors have sent a strong message, rejecting protectionism and reaffirming that more trade, not less, is the wave of the future.

Here in America, as we reflect on the many things we have to be grateful for, we should take a moment to recognize that one of the key factors behind our nation's great prosperity is the open trade policy that allows the American people to freely exchange goods and services with free people around the world. The freedom to trade is not a new issue for America. In 1776 our Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, charging the British with a number of offenses, among them, and I quote, "cutting off our trade with all parts of the world,'' end quote.

And that same year, a Scottish economist named Adam Smith launched another revolution with a book entitled ``The Wealth of Nations,'' which exposed for all time the folly of protectionism. Over the past 200 years, not only has the argument against tariffs and trade barriers won nearly universal agreement among economists but it has also proven itself in the real world, where we have seen free-trading nations prosper while protectionist countries fall behind.

America's most recent experiment with protectionism was a disaster for the working men and women of this country. When Congress passed the Smoot-Hawley tariff in 1930, we were told that it would protect America from foreign competition and save jobs in this country -- the same line we hear today. The actual result was the Great Depression, the worst economic catastrophe in our history; one out of four Americans were thrown out of work. Two years later, when I cast my first ballot for President, I voted for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who opposed protectionism and called for the repeal of that disastrous tariff.

Ever since that time, the American people have stayed true to our heritage by rejecting the siren song of protectionism. In recent years, the trade deficit led some misguided politicians to call for protectionism, warning that otherwise we would lose jobs. But they were wrong again. In fact, the United States not only didn't lose jobs, we created more jobs than all the countries of Western Europe, Canada, and Japancombined. The record is clear that when America's total trade has increased, American jobs have also increased. And when our total trade has declined, so have the number of jobs.

Part of the difficulty in accepting the good news about trade is in our words. We too often talk about trade while using the vocabulary of war. In war, for one side to win, the other must lose. But commerce is not warfare. Trade is an economic alliance that benefits both countries. There are no losers, only winners. And trade helps strengthen the free world.

Yet today protectionism is being used by some American politicians as a cheap form of nationalism, a fig leaf for those unwilling to maintain America's military strength and who lack the resolve to stand up to real enemies -- countries that would use violence against us or our allies. Our peaceful trading partners are not our enemies; they are our allies. We should beware of the demagogs who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends -- weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world -- all while cynically waving the American flag. The expansion of the international economy is not a foreign invasion; it is an American triumph, one we worked hard to achieve, and something central to our vision of a peaceful and prosperous world of freedom.

After the Second World War, America led the way to dismantle trade barriers and create a world trading system that set the stage for decades of unparalleled economic growth. And in one week, when important multilateral trade talks are held in Montreal, we will be in the forefront of efforts to improve this system. We want to open more markets for our products, to see to it that all nations play by the rules, and to seek improvement in such areas as dispute resolution and agriculture. We also want to bring the benefits of free trade to new areas, including services, investment, and the protection of intellectual property. Our negotiators will be working hard for all of us.

Yes, back in 1776, our Founding Fathers believed that free trade was worth fighting for. And we can celebrate their victory because today trade is at the core of the alliance that secure the peace and guarantee our freedom; it is the source of our prosperity and the path to an even brighter future for America.

Until next week, thanks for listening, and God bless you.

Note: The President spoke at 9:06 a.m. from his ranch in Santa Barbara County, CA.
Date
11/26/1988
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Lumber said:
Jesus H. Christ, it's like he travelled in time to the present day then came back and wrote this speech based on what he saw.

What a RINO...
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Unfortunately, if the Republicans will let Trump get away with lying so completely and unabashedly about something as central to the party’s history and identity as Reagan, we can safely assume they’ll let him get away with uttering any words on any subject.
 
brihard said:
Unfortunately, if the Republicans will let Trump get away with lying so completely and unabashedly about something as central to the party’s history and identity as Reagan, we can safely assume they’ll let him get away with uttering any words on any subject.
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In addition, ask yourself this question, will those same Republicans let Trump get away with trying for another term in 2028…..
 
Czech_pivo said:
In addition, ask yourself this question, will those same Republicans let Trump get away with trying for another term in 2028…..
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Will they still be having elections in '28?

During the war, you can't have elections? So let me just see, three and a half years from now, if we happen to be in a war with somebody, no more elections? That's good,
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www.c-span.org

President Trump Quips About Canceling 2028 Elections If U.S. Is At War

During an Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on ending the war with Russia, President Trump appears to imply that the 2028 elections could be cancelled if the U.S. is at war. “During the war, you can't have elections? So let me just see, three and a half years from...
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Pretty hard to fire up the base to buy JD merch and show up at his rallies.

Trump would be a tough act to follow.
 
brihard said:
More tantruming. He’s showing his hand though; he’s afraid SCOTUS will knock down his tariffs. He’s setting up the deflection ahead of time.

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I was expecting: ‘Since the Toronto Blue Jays have taken a 1 game lead I’m am imposing a further 10% tariff. If they win tonight, it will be an extra 20%.’
 
Looks like someone should have read this article first ;)

How to Negotiate With Someone Like Trump – And Win​


So, how should you negotiate effectively with someone like Trump? Many world leaders seem to believe that they must either obtain more power than him (which is theoretically correct, but close to impossible for most to achieve in the short term), ignore the power difference altogether and attempt to negotiate as equals, or just give in to avoid the pain or risk of confronting his hard tactics and suffering his retaliations. These are three basic mistakes that will send any negotiator toward failure in this context.

2. Don’t publicly make them look bad

People like Trump care about their image. Eroding their image is akin to attempting to reduce their power, which will likely invite a strong and immediate response. Yet, there are many negotiators whose approach has been based on trying to make Trump look bad. It’s critical to understand that power is not bravado. Trump will attempt to negotiate collaboratively with those like Russian president Vladimir Putin who, given the latter’s position as the head of a nuclear superpower, he doesn’t have a large power advantage over. However, he is unlikely to do the same with someone who acts like Putin but lacks the power to back it up.

Having a power advantage usually means that Trump can sustain the consequences of a conflict better or longer than the other side can. It’s naïve to expect that he will not try to restore his image by gaining one up on his counterparty, or that he will disregard his image and prioritise the deal’s economics. As such, those who make Trump – or anyone borrowing from his playbook – look bad publicly are likely to pay the price later unless they are powerful enough to avoid it.

 
Altair said:
I remember maple maga talking about how our porous border was the cause of all of these issues with the USA...what was that...February? March?

Now it's ads during baseball games.
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Maple MAGA have yet to grasp that Trump is not a conventional rational actor with whom one can negotiate in good faith. His observable behaviour can be fairly described as fickle, petulant, and tempestuous. Best realistic case we’re still stuck with him for at least three more years. We must assume the U.S. remains an utterly unreliable economic partner for so long as he’s in office or otherwise calling the shots. America’s trade practices can be expected to lack conventional rationality, maturity, or predictability so long as Trump is in the mix. Literally just quoting Reagan in an ad has him wailing and increasing tariffs by 10% because he’s butthurt. And extra 10% tax on his own citizens and businesses because the truth offends him.

We need to build all of the other external economic relationships that we safely can without compromising core national security interests.
 
brihard said:
Maple MAGA have yet to grasp that Trump is not a conventional rational actor with whom one can negotiate in good faith. His observable behaviour can be fairly described as fickle, petulant, and tempestuous. Best realistic case we’re still stuck with him for at least three more years. We must assume the U.S. remains an utterly unreliable economic partner for so long as he’s in office or otherwise calling the shots. America’s trade practices can be expected to lack conventional rationality, maturity, or predictability so long as Trump is in the mix. Literally just quoting Reagan in an ad has him wailing and increasing tariffs by 10% because he’s butthurt. And extra 10% tax on his own citizens and businesses because the truth offends him.

We need to build all of the other external economic relationships that we safely can without compromising core national security interests.
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Have they failed to grasp or do they simply not care, and have never cared?

I think it quickly shifted from the border to owning the libs/3D chess for maple maga.
 
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