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U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)

The US would only want our resources, I don’t think they’d be interested in dealing with the mess trudeau and freeland have left us in.
So all the more reason for us to welcome them with open arms?

Your cognitive dissonance is showing.
 
The US would only want our resources, I don’t think they’d be interested in dealing with the mess trudeau and freeland have left us in.
The guy said “51st state”. Several times.

If he wants our resources, he can easily ask for more bilateral trade agreements, which we already have.

As with pretty much everything he says, it’s Schrödinger’s Trump - he “tells it how it is”, but also he’s just kidding.
 
Several surveys of healthcare systems in the developed world have shown that both the Canadian and American systems are the absolute worst in the developed world in terms of cost and outcomes.

It’s clear that this debate comparing our healthcare systems is stupid. It’s like arguing what’s a better car: a Trabant or a Lada.
 
The guy said “51st state”. Several times.

If he wants our resources, he can easily ask for more bilateral trade agreements, which we already have.

As with pretty much everything he says, it’s Schrödinger’s Trump - he “tells it how it is”, but also he’s just kidding.

No, see, when we sell the US resources that they need and want to buy, he dishonestly characterizes that as “subsidizing” us.
 
So to reduce my trade deficit with Canadian Tire, I should unilaterally make my purchase there more expensive, then increase my trade deficit with…the more expensive Home Depot (since I can’t make my own tools and stuff or would be incredibly expensive for me to try).

This guy’s economic illiteracy is astounding.
 
Trump is just softening up the target for future trade negotiations. The amalgamation of US and Canada (and I'd add Mexico) is a very interesting thought experiment and makes for interesting discussion.

Accusations of treason and traitor are ridiculous - might be a little less ridiculous if Canada wasn't already entirely dependent on the US for economic and security reasons. But if you are going down that path then what are all those who knowingly support a government that has done nothing to root out the control or influence of a major adversary?
 
So to reduce my trade deficit with Canadian Tire, I should unilaterally make my purchase there more expensive, then increase my trade deficit with…the more expensive Home Depot (since I can’t make my own tools and stuff or would be incredibly expensive for me to try).

This guy’s economic illiteracy is astounding.
He graduated so high from Wharton Business School that you can’t see his records!
 
Trump is just softening up the target for future trade negotiations. The amalgamation of US and Canada (and I'd add Mexico) is a very interesting thought experiment and makes for interesting discussion.

Accusations of treason and traitor are ridiculous - might be a little less ridiculous if Canada wasn't already entirely dependent on the US for economic and security reasons. But if you are going down that path then what are all those who knowingly support a government that has done nothing to root out the control or influence of a major adversary?

The only people guilty of treason are trudeau, singh and the MPs who vote with them.
 
... The US might be able to afford health care if they cut back on sending other countries so much money.
Or if there were a way to make a system where every level of delivery - individual docs, hospitals, clinics, administrators, insurance, etc. - each have to make a profit for their shareholders?

Ideally, something in between Canada and the U.S. could work, but these days, it gets harder to find anything in the middle of two extremes :(
 
The only people guilty of treason are trudeau, singh and the MPs who vote with them.
There are traitors…and there are dupes. Traitors come from both sides of the political spectrum. And IMHO some people may be wrong or misguided in their voting but are not necessarily traitors. Although I have considered myself to be mostly more liberal than conservative, I do think the LPC has more traitors than the CPC…and there those whom I consider to be traitors. Also, if you’re talking primarily about those who sell out to a foreign entity, there are so many foreign influences occurring in Canada today it can sometimes be easy to make a decision that is not favourable to Canada’s interests. For that reason I believe that something like a new revamped and strengthened FIRA (and not just for our strategic minerals) should be considered at the very least. And the ongoing problems of national defence and immigration needs to be seriously addressed. Having said all that, I do believe that Trudeau has gone against the overall wishes of most Canadians regarding the basic structure of what Canada should be. But then Trudeau has hardly made a secret of his mostly extreme leftist views. So is it Canadians themselves who voted him, Singh and other “traitors” (regardless of political party) into power who are the actual traitors?

Things are so complicated nowadays. But definitely there will be a day of reckoning…and there needs to be.
 
In this article from March of this year, it compares Canada's economic performance to Australia. Stark differences in policy. It is this kind of Canadian mismanagement that drives the Annex Canada discussion. If Canada can't manage to get itself in order, someone else will eventually do it. The US and Canada are too intertwined for this to be ignored. Trump just noticed and stated: Challenge accepted!

 
In this article from March of this year, it compares Canada's economic performance to Australia. Stark differences in policy. It is this kind of Canadian mismanagement that drives the Annex Canada discussion. If Canada can't manage to get itself in order, someone else will eventually do it. The US and Canada are too intertwined for this to be ignored. Trump just noticed and stated: Challenge accepted!

The “Annex Canada” and 25% tariff BS was, in large part, due to what Trump described as the Fentanyl crisis in the CAN / US border.

Australia does not have a border with the US.

To add: The “Canada / Australia” comparisons aren’t apples and oranges, especially when it comes to the CAF and the ADF. Our entire geopolitical situations are completely different - they know they have to be self-sufficient for the first 48 hours or so before the allies can help them. We do (or did) not.
 
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