I for one, won't be nitpicking anyone about headdress on or off in their POMV. If I start, it'll be time to get posted to Esquimault.
ObedientiaZelum said:I'm curious if these rules mean members need to be clean shaven to use base facilities while on leave OR if Pte Boner sitting at home for a week playing xbox should technically still shave every day.
CDNAIRFORCE said:"Visible inappropriate tattoos should be removed from visibility or the members released in my opinion. That said inappropriate can be very subjective. I don't think there is anything wrong with a skull but someone up the chain might find it in bad taste and say it's not allowed."
I recall a person in another platoon during BMQ who had many tattoos. During PT I noticed on his leg he had a swastika however over top of it there was a red circle and diagonal line. (Like on a no left turn traffic sign) The symbol was still visible. I don't know, nor did I care to know, what if any activities or organizations he might have been part of or if he got the symbol and red slash/circle at the same time. Never saw him again and I think he released afterward. I wondered at the time had he remained in the CF what course of action would occur the way it had that red circle/line.
Ohhhh don't go and start talking sense here. The committee with too much time on their hands have eyes and ears everywhere.NFLD Sapper said:Headdress on or off it doesn't matter.....as long as said member has it on when he/she steps out of said PMV....
ArmyVern said:Perhaps the rule is caused not by the troops wanting, needing or intending to waste their money or their time by dry-cleaning/pressing their ACUs, but by someone above them in their CoC insisting upon "dry cleaning" of them. Ergo, it is now laid down that dry-cleaning is out, but that pers can take an iron to them if someone deems that their ACU should be 'pressed".
My phone ran off the hook a couple years ago when one of the numerous COs who was having a Change of Command parade put it out there that he wanted all his personnel in brand new, and then dry-cleaned/pressed cadpat uniforms on that parade. Uhhhhh, not going to happen.
Sometimes, rules happen not because of what the troops' do, but because of what some higher would attempt to do.
signalsguy said:You all missed something from the pub:
In the works for more than a year, strict new rules governing things like tattoos and grooming for soldiers have been approved by the Secretary of the Army and are only awaiting a final signature, Sgt. Maj. of the Army Raymond Chandler said Saturday.
Speaking to troops at bases in eastern Afghanistan, Chandler said Secretary John McHugh has approved but not yet officially put his name to the changes to Army Regulation 670-1.
“We’re just waiting for the secretary to sign,” Chandler said during a town hall meeting with soldiers from the 4th Combat Brigade Team, 10th Mountain Division, at Forward Operating Base Gamberi. He made similar remarks to troops at FOB Fenty in Jalalabad.
The regulations cover things such as tattoos, grooming, and uniforms and apply only to soldiers. Other branches of the military have their own grooming and appearance rules.
Chandler said he expects the changes to become policy in 30 to 60 days.
Media reports last year identified potential changes to rules governing things such as make-up and fingernail polish, hair styles, body piercings, and the length of sideburns, among other items. Chandler, however, only confirmed changes to the policy on tattoos.
Under the new policy, new recruits will not be allowed to have tattoos that show below the elbows and knees or above the neckline, Chandler told troops. Current soldiers may be grandfathered in, but all soldiers will still be barred from having any tattoos that are racist, sexist or extremist.
Once the rules are implemented, soldiers will sit down with their unit leaders and “self identify” each tattoo. Soldiers will be required to pay for the removal of any tattoo that violates the policy, Chandler said ....
Yes, but the whole generation will be aging along with them and having spent their lives watching the ink age and sag, won't see anything out of place with them.GAP said:.....all with not a wit of understanding of what they are going to look like 20+ years down the road....