US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence

[QV]

To quote from another thread:

Or you could go see for yourself. Rasmussen is just the handle sharing. The material I am referring to are videos of hearings, documents, court cases etc.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I wonder if the number of eligible voters changes over the time between elections? People dying, moving, coming to voting age, etc.

Well of course there will be a number of metrics involved. Hence the reason why, in my mind, the rolls should be cleansed every four years, a year before the election. Less if they can get it done. The least amount of time between cleaning them and the election, the better.

Mind, it might not work for democrats. They don't usually vote until after they die.

I kid! I kid! Please don't take offence and climb up my ass. It's a joke.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

To quote from another thread:

And to continue quoting from that thread, neither has most of the other MSM outlets.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

How are they getting hundreds of mail-in ballots?

And if mail-in voting was so bad, why is the GOP pivoting on it this time around after lambasting it in the 2020 election (which may have cost them the election)?

Jesus, really? There are lots of convictions out there for this very thing. Do your own work and look it up instead of casting shade. You asked for sources, you were told Rasmussen had them, then you discount Rasmussen as not being credible without even looking.

Edit - here's one. You can find more on your own.

Video: Judge overturns election after Democrats caught ballot stuffing

A judge overturned a Democratic primary election over video footage revealing individuals stuffing absentee ballots into ballot drop boxes.

americanmilitarynews.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719859051792679040

 

[dimsum]

Jesus, really? There are lots of convictions out there for this very thing. Do your own work and look it up instead of casting shade. You asked for sources, you were told Rasmussen had them, then you discount Rasmussen as not being credible without even looking.

Edit - here's one. You can find more on your own.

Video: Judge overturns election after Democrats caught ballot stuffing

A judge overturned a Democratic primary election over video footage revealing individuals stuffing absentee ballots into ballot drop boxes.

americanmilitarynews.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719859051792679040

Fair.

 

[Blackadder1916]

Jesus, really? There are lots of convictions out there for this very thing. Do your own work and look it up instead of casting shade. You asked for sources, you were told Rasmussen had them, then you discount Rasmussen as not being credible without even looking.

Edit - here's one. You can find more on your own.

Video: Judge overturns election after Democrats caught ballot stuffing

A judge overturned a Democratic primary election over video footage revealing individuals stuffing absentee ballots into ballot drop boxes.

americanmilitarynews.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719859051792679040

While there may or may not be "lots of convictions" for this very thing (still to see any evidence), the case you provided as an example did not culminate in "a conviction". There was a "judgement" enter in this civil case that resulted in ordering a new primary for the Democratic party nomination for mayor.

https://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=26199518

Even with the redo, the result was the same. But then a cursory glance at Bridgeport municipal politics would elicit a 'WTF' regardless of whatever outcome. It's obviously a Dem's town and within the party it's an eat your young game.

Some interesting quotes from a local report on the later mayoral election(s),

Ganim, Gomes in Bridgeport election again. What’s changed?

A new election between Bridgeport Mayor Joe Ganim and his Democratic opponent John Gomes was scheduled for Jan. 23 after a state Superior Court judge concluded that last year’s primary between the two men was marred by widespread ballot fraud.

www.ctpublic.org

As Bridgeport prepares for its third mayoral election in five months, political operatives in the city are, once again, locked in an all-out battle for absentee votes.

Ganim, who returned to the mayor's office in 2015 after serving seven years in prison on federal corruption charges, has relied heavily on absentee votes to win many of his most recent elections.

Municipal primaries in Connecticut are frequently low-turnout affairs, with less than a quarter of all eligible voters participating in those elections. And that is unlikely to improve in the new court-ordered primary where only two candidates are on the ballot.

That is part of the reason why both campaigns devoted large amounts of time and resources in the past three weeks boosting the absentee numbers.

Depending on the outcome of the new primary and future court proceedings, Bridgeport voters may be asked to return to the polls in February for a new general election, which would likely feature a fourth matchup between Ganim and Gomes.

And still mayor.

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/joe-ganim-bridgeport-mayor-sworn-in-2024-19460073.php

 

[Fishbone Jones]

While there may or may not be "lots of convictions" for this very thing (still to see any evidence), the case you provided as an example did not culminate in "a conviction". There was a "judgement" enter in this civil case that resulted in ordering a new primary for the Democratic party nomination for mayor.

https://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=26199518

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Even with the redo, the result was the same. But then a cursory glance at Bridgeport municipal politics would elicit a 'WTF' regardless of whatever outcome. It's obviously a Dem's town and within the party it's an eat your young game.

Some interesting quotes from a local report on the later mayoral election(s),

Ganim, Gomes in Bridgeport election again. What’s changed?

A new election between Bridgeport Mayor Joe Ganim and his Democratic opponent John Gomes was scheduled for Jan. 23 after a state Superior Court judge concluded that last year’s primary between the two men was marred by widespread ballot fraud.

www.ctpublic.org

And still mayor.

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/joe-ganim-bridgeport-mayor-sworn-in-2024-19460073.php

I'll admit to mispeaking about convictions vice cases, but there have been convictions (see below) also. Other than that, the point is the system down there has a massive problem with fraud. Partially in stuffing drop boxes with bogus ballots. The question was asked about proof of drop box stuffing. I posted an article showing drop box stuffing. Whatever happened in court is secondary and not part of it. The discussion was about bogus ballots, so let's not get lost in the weeds. I appreciate the time and research you did and while welcome, I don't see any reason to pursue that point. Dimsum acknowledged my post and he appears to be satisfied bogus ballots and drop box stuffing are a real thing. I'll accept responsibility for the confusion.

Iowa official’s wife convicted of 52 counts of voter fraud in ballot-stuffing scheme​

Iowa official's wife convicted of 52 counts of voter fraud in ballot-stuffing scheme

The wife of a northwestern Iowa county supervisor has been convicted of a scheme to stuff the ballot box in her husband’s unsuccessful race for a Republican nomination to run for Congress in 2020.

apnews.com

And a republican to boot

 

[Brad Sallows]

The point of election controls is to prevent fraud before it happens (maintain propriety) and increase confidence in integrity (maintain appearance of propriety). Not everything designed for the latter has to address a fault which has already been exploited. Regardless, weak points exploited in one place can be exploited elsewhere. Once the perception of fraud is established, trust is difficult to re-establish.

 

[Maxman1]

I remember after the 2020 election, Steve Crowder did an investigative report where he acquired a voter roll through FOIA and entered addresses into FedEx shipping cost estimator, and any that came back undeliverable he sent someone to check it out. A bunch of addresses turned out to not exist, most were either a vacant lot or the number was skipped in the sequence.

Twitter took it down as "unverified" even though the entire segment was the verification.

 

[dimsum]

“Dictator on day one” shirts next to a table with “Come and Take It” and “Don’t Tread on Me” flags.

Irony is dead.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Not our (Canada's) election, but since we have Canadians commenting here, here's what Angus Reid & Co. have been hearing re: Canadian feels about Harris ....

U.S. Election: Canadians keen on Kamala, but say women generally walk a harder road to high political office -

Men under 55 most likely to be critical of Harris: one-quarter call her ‘dishonest’, one-in-five ‘corrupt’ August 14, 2024 – Presumptive Democratic nominee for president Kamala Harris is riding a wave of enthusiasm as preparations are made to confirm her candidacy at the Democratic National...

angusreid.org

 

[Brad Sallows]

“Dictator on day one” shirts next to a table with “Come and Take It” and “Don’t Tread on Me” flags.

Irony is dead.

Or you missed the point that they are taking the mickey out of people who fear that Trump really means he is going to be a dictator on day one.

 

[dimsum]

Or you missed the point that they are taking the mickey out of people who fear that Trump really means he is going to be a dictator on day one.

Americans (in general) are not known for sarcasm. This is the country that had folks clutching pearls about litter boxes in classrooms for kids.

In this time of hyper-partisanship, even if those two were joking (which I doubt), there are folks on the GOP supporters side who would think it was real. Sarcasm only works if all sides of the joke know that it’s a joke.

 

[QV]

Everyone on the planet knows Trump was tongue in cheek when responding to the accusations he'd be a dictator when he said with a smile: "only on day one".

 

[KevinB]

I remember after the 2020 election, Steve Crowder did an investigative report where he acquired a voter roll through FOIA and entered addresses into FedEx shipping cost estimator, and any that came back undeliverable he sent someone to check it out. A bunch of addresses turned out to not exist, most were either a vacant lot or the number was skipped in the sequence.

Twitter took it down as "unverified" even though the entire segment was the verification.

Some states have absolutely deplorable voting registries, that one could drive a truck through.

In VA it is tied to the DMV, (which has requirements for Citizenship or Residency for the REAL ID). I was always curious when I was a GreenCard Holder what would have occurred if I attempted to register to vote - due to the fact there are some significant penalties for that I never did, but once I gained my US Citizenship all I needed to do was click the button to be added -- so I am curious as to what would happen if a non-citizen permanent resident did that.

We found out when going to vote that a friend of my wife when she went to vote in person that she was originally denied as she and her husband had sent in Mail in Ballots, which caused some consternation as her husband has passed in 2019. So there clearly are issues of voter fraud - the degree of that is debated heavily - most audits have shown that it isn't enough to tip the scales in any manner, but one tends to wonder about the accuracy of the audits and how the methods they employ are done.

While searching for some vote harvesting cases I also came across this.

Federal Authorities Charge Nineteen with Voter Fraud

www.justice.gov

So it is clear that some illegals are voting, and presumably not all are caught.

 

[QV]

For the anti-Trumpers hanging their hat on the "34 felony convictions", Andrew McCarthy's analysis suggest you may have some real great news in the short term:

Andrew McCarthy: Prepare for Trump to be sentenced to prison on September 18

The New York prosecution of Trump was politics, not justice. That’s why we call it "lawfare." Prosecutors and the judge are not concerned about whether convictions later get thrown out.

www.foxnews.com

If this happens I predict Trump's popularity to get another bump and ultimately everything dumped on appeal. Due to the obvious electoral implications SCOTUS may even intervene right after sentencing.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Everyone on the planet knows Trump was tongue in cheek when responding to the accusations he'd be a dictator when he said with a smile: "only on day one".

Well, typing as someone on the planet who wonders what he meant, I can say you're not reading my mind correctly, so maybe it's not quite as absolute as you say

We can't really be sure, though, given the same candidate has trouble pronouncing and/or spelling the names of his opponents, so hard to tell if he's serious, tongue in cheek, disrespectful (in the case of the misspelling/mispronunciations) or just being (dare I say it?) weird. #WordsMatter

 

[dimsum]

Everyone on the planet knows Trump was tongue in cheek when responding to the accusations he'd be a dictator when he said with a smile: "only on day one".

Was the tongue in cheek part that he would be a dictator, or only on day one?

And no, not everyone on the planet knew that.

 

[QV]

That was a tough one for y'all, hey?

 

[dimsum]

That was a tough one for y'all, hey?

Well, when his staff had to clarify his remarks with “what he really meant was…” multiple times during his tenure as POTUS, starting with the “alternative facts” gem about the crowd at his inauguration, I’m disinclined to believe that even he knows what he’s talking about half the time.