Who else has trouble...

[KevinB]

The suppressor is part of the C7CT MRS EIS.

 

[blacktriangle]

RHFC
Something to chew on    

Now back off I'm flirting    ;D

Damn, I have no idea what this topic is about, but I like the gun..

 

[FastEddy]

I've been here about two weeks now, and I'm just dying to start new threads and get to know everyone. I quickly got the impression that it's frowned upon to post things unless you are going to 'add' to the board. That's ok, it's just not what I'm used to. Any other message board and I would have had at least 100+ posts by now. Not because I'm trying to up my post count, but because I just like talking.

So here is my pointless but harmless 'hi' thread, in the off topic place, where post count doesn't count. I'm sure that some of you can relate?

Okay, Who has What trouble ?, by the way, you'd be surprised what we don,t frown on.

 

[boots]

Okay, Who has What trouble ?, by the way, you'd be surprised what we don,t frown on.

Trouble restraining themselves when posting.

 

[Sf2]

my kit is bigger than your kit - and my glasses are more expensive too

 

[aesop081]

I have less kit...but my aircraft is bigger 

 

[Black Watch]

Kev, was that the c8CQB?

 

[blacktriangle]

Kev, was that the c8CQB?

I'm going to guess a C8 SFW with an EOTech 552, back up sight, AN/PEQ 2 and aforementioned C7CT suppressor.

I have no idea and can't wait to be proved wrong by the gun gods here...

:blotto:

 

[GO!!!]

my kit is bigger than your kit - and my glasses are more expensive too

Unfortunately, you are posing ( ) next to a Gryphon (Griffon?), a helo known for it's inability to carry much of my kit very far or fast, and which often seems to be crewed by the dyed - hair - techno - listening - to - Jetta - driving crowd, while the other posters here are posing with items designed to visit quick and horrible violence on other people and the submarines that carry them.

Now if you had a picture of a 146 with GUNS on it, that would be cool. But if that's all you got, I understand. 

 

[FastEddy]

Trouble restraining themselves when posting.

Well thats interesting to know.

I guess you can't help noticing, that here we have a Attractive Young Lady who would like to Chat or engage in a topic but all the posts seem to be about their guns.

Well I'll give you topic, off hand, do you think Women perfer men in uniforms (Military, Police, Fire Dept, EMS). And besides the appearance of these Gentlemen, what does it say of who or what their about in your opinion.

 

[TCBF]

In the movie "The Sand Pebbles", didn't Steve McQueen say "The uniform get'em every time" as he was picking up a Chinese ho?

Tom

 

[Sf2]

ahhh, GO...if you only knew.....

Unless you're artillery, then I'd have no problem taking you and 7 of your close friends w/kit for a 140kt ride.
Lets not get off topic here, but just wait till you see what CANSOFCOM has to say about the Griffon in certain roles.  And I drive an s2000, not a jetta ;D

 

[Black Watch]

Unfortunately, you are posing ( ) next to a Gryphon (Griffon?), a helo known for it's inability to carry much of my kit very far or fast, and which often seems to be crewed by the dyed - hair - techno - listening - to - Jetta - driving crowd, while the other posters here are posing with items designed to visit quick and horrible violence on other people and the submarines that carry them.

Now if you had a picture of a 146 with GUNS on it, that would be cool. But if that's all you got, I understand.  

cool but impossible...

 

[Good2Golf]

cool but impossible...

I'd do it but I'm kind of waiting for some kit...he he he

Cheers,
Duey

p.s.  cuteboots, I like your avatar.  Welcome to the board!

 

[GO!!!]

ahhh, GO...if you only knew.....

Unless you're artillery, then I'd have no problem taking you and 7 of your close friends w/kit for a 140kt ride.
Lets not get off topic here, but just wait till you see what CANSOFCOM has to say about the Griffon in certain roles.   And I drive an s2000, not a jetta ;D

Well, I do know that a rifle section has 10 men (most of the time) who take a 400lbs toboggan with us in the winter and 80-100lbs rucksacks all year round.

I also know that on the last ex I went on with any major helo support, the boys were firing through the open doors (MILES gear) at the enemy, and the poor loadie screamed so hard he broke a few blood vessels in his cheeks!

We've already covered the deficiencies of the 146 in other threads, but if it can't carry a section, and you can't shoot guns from it, it is not a military helo, it is just a civvie utility helo painted green.

Now a Chinook on the other hand ...

 

[Sf2]

again, off original topic - but military helicopter or not, unless the aircraft captain gave you a clear to engage, then the "loadie" (flight engineer actually) had every right to scream at ya.

It can and will carry a section, and you can also fire weapons from it, when the AC gives you clearance to do so......

But we can continue this gentlemenly converstion in another topic....

 

[GO!!!]

again, off original topic - but military helicopter or not, unless the aircraft captain gave you a clear to engage, then the "loadie" (flight engineer actually) had every right to scream at ya.

It can and will carry a section, and you can also fire weapons from it, when the AC gives you clearance to do so......

But we can continue this gentlemenly converstion in another topic....

Loadie/stewardess/FE...strange, we never seem to have such problems with US/Brit/Kiwi pilots and crew, they seem fixated on doing their jobs.

What is the cargo and troop weight capacity of a 146? If it is less than 5000 lbs, you are mistaken. A section with ammo in winter kit weighs nearly this, and that is without the crew.
Toboggan 400lbs
10 x hard charges w/ ammo and weapons 3000lbs
10 x rucksacks 1000lbs

Additionally, can a 146 be rigged for seating for 10? I've never seen it.

There have already been numerous threads on our "flower power tac : hel squadrons" specifically 408, and I am loathe to start another one, but
you seem convinced that this bird has some sort of tactical value in the methods it is currently employed, and as such are seen posing with it as if it were an item we should be proud of.

Having done operations and exercises in Chinooks, Blackhawks, Sea Knights/Stallions, and Pumas and a quick ride in a Pave Low, we have a looooong way to go before the "tac" is back. The 146 is not the machine to do it in.

A quick search will acquaint you more with what's been covered.

 

[boots]

...and I'm still working on it.  :
I think whomever thought up 'curiosity killed the cat' had me in mind

 

[KevinB]

Boots -  Sorry for the testosterone kick.  I gather your looking to the Airforce?  Then hang around with Duey and his Hook crew -- the 146's have some seriosu performance issues 


Short Final -- I can tell you what a few guys say about the 146...
  It's only claim to fame is having a fast rop setup close - unlike the (insane) setup on the Hook.

I've flown in Griffons, Iroquois, BlackHawks, a PaveHawk, PaveLow, Sea Stallion (USMC), Labrador, Chinook (even with ol 450), Kiowa.

With a Cbt Helo  We need two things the Ch146 does not have.
  #1 Carrying Capacity for 10 pers with Kit
  #2 2x Door Gunners (preferably competant ones - not a loadie backassing it)

 

[TCBF]

"#2 2x Door Gunners (preferably competant ones - not a loadie backassing it)"

- Yeah, just so you don't end up with some guy who joined the airforce because he wanted to join Wendy Cukier's war on guns!

I was walking out of the CFXE in Lahr and their was a very animated pilot just a cursin' and a spittin' about how we had just announced we were buying 50 NSas from some bunch of weirdos in 'Yerp.  He said we should have bought the Black Hawk/Sea Hawk combo.

It would appear he has had the last laugh.

Tom