rmc_wannabe
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Better than the PVC fetish we had for a good 40 years. Those white, plastic monstrosities can die in a fire.
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OldSolduer
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Actually its not the RSM who dictates who wears what hat. It is his job to enforce the regulations as authorized by his or her CO.
Mind you, the RSM does have the ear of the CO.
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You should see the utter shit white belts that logistiks sell to us. The white plastic belts with brass fittings are sturdy and last forever.
Backing up a bit, how the hell did the RCAF not take a look at this, then send something direct to Logistik Unicorp to the effect of “this, without the shoulder straps, in blue”?
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Maxman1
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Hopefully that's next, along with an eight button Navy coat.
That was asked to the RCAF CWO through RCAFe. No plans at this time to do so.
I mean, that is basically what the new uniform is going to look like anyways.
rmc_wannabe
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So like a proper uniform?
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I'm good. The RCN has a reasonable balance of tradition, and modernity in the DEU already. Two more buttons aren't going to make my jacket feel any more "navy" than it already does.
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Any indications of when this uniform will be delivered? I've heard a variety of rumours, mostly centring on 2025, but it'd be nice to have a ballpark to when we will be switching.
Upcoming dinner plans?
rmc_wannabe
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The BN I read stated the goal was IOC for Q3 2024, FOC for Q3 2025, and sustainment from 2026 onward.
The fact that the concept and approval is done and on its way to trials right now is a good start
Having read the notes this seems to be a great example of the CA getting the space to do something and doing it well.
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It's almost like we have the capability to do so but we're hamstrung by the civvie masters of the purse strings, namely PSPC and TBS.
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The ruleset is reasonably well defined. CAF insistence on APs to mess things up, and GOFOs trying to force last minute changes are more of an obstacle than either of those two.
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Except that when projects last decades, there needs to have the flexibility to change as the environment changes. Requirements from 20 years ago may not make sense anymore.
Historically, the 8-button RCN jacket is for officers. Chiefs and POs had a 6-button jacket, pretty much exactly what the RCN has now.
But yeah, not sure why that will change anything.
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Fair, my point stands. Seeing RCN officers with eight buttons won't make me feel any more navy either.
Maybe if they gave NWOs two moustaches in place of buttons the modern and traditional sensibilities can be assuaged.
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The process is supposed to cover those eventualities.
It doesn't in practice, though, because not everyone posted in in in the top third of the merit list, and there are many folks who will just put their heads down and carry on, and never ask "has the situation changed?"
I have seen projects in implementation experiencing significant problems where the sponsor has sent their PD on SLT instead of keeping them in the project. That's not a process problem; that's not a TBS or PSPC problem; that's a sponsor not caring problem.
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