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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

Wonderful .
Instead of doing., " We fought a good fight a tough fight and while we didn't do as well as we hoped , we still accomplished a great deal all thanks your hard efforts on our behalf.
But now we have to plan and prepare for the future while keeping the Liberals honest and holding the Government to account.
But in order to do this and prepare for the next election that will require all of you to dig deep and give . In order help make us the next government of this ncredible country the we all love and share."
What we seem to be getting instead is, " Whahh ! We lost and we're going to be a bunch of whiney assed losers and total jerks !"
 
Wonderful .
Instead of doing., " We fought a good fight a tough fight and while we didn't do as well as we hoped , we still accomplished a great deal all thanks your hard efforts on our behalf.
But now we have to plan and prepare for the future while keeping the Liberals honest and holding the Government to account.
But in order to do this and prepare for the next election that will require all of you to dig deep and give . In order help make us the next government of this ncredible country the we all love and share."
What we seem to be getting instead is, " Whahh ! We lost and we're going to be a bunch of whiney assed losers and total jerks !"

What ever happened to that centrist party that seem to be a meld of small -c conservative and small l liberal ?
 
What we seem to be getting instead is, " Whahh ! We lost and we're going to be a bunch of whiney assed losers and total jerks !"

Perhaps.

I prefer to believe the majority of Canadians are good sports.
 
... England conquered New France. Period end stop, the whole plains of Abraham defeat left Canada under British rule, not any sort of joint endeavor. Upper and Lower Canada were still run as a British Territory, as where Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick. Lower Canada being able to keep aspects of the French system was simply an issue out of the ease of administration ...
Another way of looking at that bit in yellow: the Brits of the day may have considered it more like "we don't want them lured to another master any more than they already would be as a conquered people", especially with revolutionary stuff already happening in the immediate neighbourhood.

In fact, there's some out there who consider the Plains of Abraham the start of the American Revolution/War of Independence (given how many Americans served in the Brit Navy/Army) ....
 

Accompanied by other 'traditional' but lesser punishments ;)

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Chennai:Kasturi Munirathinam, who lost her right hand after it was allegedly chopped off by her Saudi Arabian employer, was assured support by Tamil Nadu BJP on Wednesday which also promised to take steps to provide her with an artificial limb.

The 55-year-old woman, a native of Mungileri village in Vellore district, called on Tamil Nadu BJP chief Tamilisai Soundararajan at the party headquarters 'Kamalalayam' in Chennai.

Ms Munirathinam thanked her for her efforts to press the Centre to bring her back to Tamil Nadu and also urged the BJP leader to take steps for getting her pending salary



 
Imagine if Canada was trying to recruit another state into confederation and the deal was:

  • we'll give you less representation in the senate than provinces a quarter your size
  • we'll take revenue from you in taxes and re-distribute some of it to other provinces
  • we'll do everything we can to limit your ability to export product from your major industry while we import same from elsewhere
  • we'll mock and disparage your culture as something less than other provinces or regions

Sound like a deal? Or do you think there might be better options?
I've often thought on the differences in culture between Ontario and the west. Speaking of the context of family in southern Ontario and then living in mostly rural northern Alberta.

1. Size of the country. For rural, especially western Canadians, a couple of hour drive for something like Costco shopping is almost normal. You have a better appreciation of the size of the country when you're thinking of a trip and debating a 5 hour or 8 hour drive to the nearest international airport. For my urban relations crossing Toronto is viewed as a full day trip and only undertaken in a state of emergency (although 401 traffic is hell for anyone).

2. Role of government and especially government response. It's a standing joke in every first aid course I've taken over "here's what the book says about response times" when everyone in the room is hoping for a 1 hour response time best case. Urban center...10 minutes and people panic. The reliance on government infrastructure is different but also changes some of the personal accountability to improve ones position.

3. Background of neighborhood. Almost everyone I deal with locally is from another part of the province or country. Local residents are only about 25% of the population with many having moved in/inter married due to resource work and/or opportunities that didn't' exist elsewhere. And for almost all of the "new blood" in the region it's not the first stop as many have lived in multiple communities spread around the country previously due to opportunities and work. Labour is a commodity and it flows with opportunity.

Now to compare that to some urban relations they struggle to comprehend the concept of moving away from the city because "why would you leave" and for many, work jobs that I frankly don't know they stay afloat from. But offer them a job with 50% more pay on the other side of the country and they think you've asked them to go to mars.

Until fairly recently it was common to be able to play the "spot the out of province license plate game" around town and see how many provinces you could see on a lunch break. Tried explaining that to relations out east when visiting there and they didn't know what the plates even looked like for half the country. On the reciprocal side of things they knew how many different nationalities of international backgrounds which for my sheltered rural youth was totally foreign.

4. Proximity of the US and it's influence. For many of the relations a cross border trip is "normal" ....for some it's as normal as driving home and noticing milk is on sale in the US so I'll grab some on the way home. Comments like "why fly out of Toronto we'll drive to Detroit and fly for 1/3rd the cost...don't you do that?" or "we'll drive to Florida...are you coming" are a huge disconnect from what I've experienced. For myself...8 hours gets me almost the border of Montana...so big cities and cross border shopping just don't exist as options.

5. Costs and competition. Your local milage may vary but topics like travel (I pay for the flight before taxes what they pay for the entire package), cell phones (only Telus really works here so no options on plans), groceries (no US competition for sales/local fruit orchards) or power costs (yes aware some of this is AB gov't policy but not much cheap hydro or nuclear options out west).

6. Government jobs. It's a perception and might be true but at least out west government jobs were very limited. Local municipality...some provincial jobs in larger towns...and it wasn't until you hit the major cities you saw any real federal jobs outside the RCMP. Aware the CAF has a strong presence in Alberta but it's localized in areas I didn't grow up in.

Now for family...most of whom live within 1 hour of a major center...it seems much more common to have a higher employment via federal jobs and/or provincial jobs. I get the Ontario gov't jobs are centered in the south and much of the AB/ON split being described here also applies to NW Ontario with rural areas differing widely from Toronto/Ottawa.

7. Oil vs. Automobiles. Many of the relations are involved in the auto industry and they struggle to see how dominate oil and gas is out west. Like the assembly plants both were sectors were working people could earn good wages, with minimal schooling, and raise families. But while they can acknowledge that part they struggle with the concept of the constant Gov't bailouts for Auto being a good thing (its jobs so of course the gov't should do it) vs. policy for the west (it's nature so of course you shouldn't develop it). I'll be the first to say Alberta has done some piss poor work on the environmental side (like BC and ON with mining as well) but there are few success stories to show vs. the constant images of the mountain parks as "pristine" that people think the whole province is like.

Anyways....some ramblings pre-coffee thinking about differences between portions of the country. My Quebec, Maritime and BC experiences are much more limited but it's always been an interesting experience traveling around the Country and seeing both how similar, and different, the regions are.

foresterab

Regardless of your individual experiences it's
 
We definitely have an urban-rurual split in this country, and the west is not the only example. The maritime provinces are largely rural and experience many of the same things you've articulated above. That being said, they typically feel less ignored by the center as they are net beneficiaries of government contracts and transfer payments.
 
We definitely have an urban-rurual split in this country, and the west is not the only example. The maritime provinces are largely rural and experience many of the same things you've articulated above. That being said, they typically feel less ignored by the center as they are net beneficiaries of government contracts and transfer payments.
The other aspect of the maritimes...who agreed do have many rural areas...is the much smaller size. When I visit Nova Scotia and everyone referred to everything being within 45 min of Halifax...except for Cape Breton....that's what I think of acreage subdivision around Edmonton/Calgary/Toronto.

Labrador....completely different story than St. Johns. But Newfoundland is like BC...large center dominating the rest of the province.

Someday I'll have to pull the MP Constituency boundaries up and then try to see how many of them are within City Limits vs. 1 hour of city vs. more remote. I'm sure someone has already done this but does speak to some of the rural/urban divide. And then figure out what percentage of ridings fit those criteria by province.

Unfortunately I think there are a lot more urban/sub-urban ridings than pure rural ridings. And the issues those ridings have are very different than remote areas....some of which I think we saw come out in the last election.
 
According to Statistics Canada,

As of the 2021 census, nearly 6 million people ( 16% of the total Canadian population ) lived in rural areas of Canada.


 
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Canadian ridings as pulled from Government of Canada website: Federal Electoral Districts - Canada 2023 - Open Government Portal

Population centers were pulled from census data and only the largest category selected:2021 Census Boundary files. Then took the large center subset and buffered 100km around each to represent 1 hour travel.
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Outcome....342 Ridings.

322 have some degree of overlap with population centers. Including my own due to sliver of land inside Calgary 5 hours away. So that's not telling me much. It's partially based upon edge effects and tons of little slivers "counting" vs the bulk of the riding.

If I remove the ridings within the 100km buffer I'm however left with 67 ridings accross Canada that have residents more than 100km from a major center.

Mariomike had identifed via his video clip that 16% of Canadians identified as rural. This number comes in at 19.5% which is good enough for a lunch hour trying something different in GIS.

A cleaner final product showing the rural areas in relation to ridings.
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It's not so simple as 10% in a riding. Reimbursement of election expenses is at two levels; Registered Parties and Candidates. What is eligible for reimbursement and the amount of any reimbursement is a whole other matter.

Part of the eligibility criteria is:

For Registered Parties:
The candidates endorsed by the party received at least:
  • 2% of the valid votes cast in the election, or
  • 5% of the valid votes cast in the electoral districts where the party endorsed a candidate
For Candidates:
A candidate's campaign is eligible for reimbursement if the candidate:
  • was elected or received at least 10% of the valid votes, and

OTTAWA — The federal NDP will not be able to rely on hefty campaign reimbursements from Elections Canada to fill its party coffers after its worst-ever election result.
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Only 46 NDP candidates out of 342 received 10 per cent or more of the votes that would make them eligible for a partial reimbursement of paid election expenses such as travel, salaries, accessibility expenses and other costs associated with the campaign.

Now I'm confused again.
 
According to Statistics Canada,



If I understand that correctly, because the town of Bauline is in the St. John's CMA, it's population gets counted as urbanites?

Bauline... population 412... ?
 

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If I understand that correctly, because the town of Bauline is in the St. John's CMA, it's population gets counted as a urbanites?

Bauline... population 412... ?

Population and dwelling counts by the Statistical Area Classification


You likely understand Canadian statistics better than I.
 
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