The War in Ukraine

[Jarnhamar]

Have there been any discussions surrounding drone use and the Geneva conventions?

A couple videos come to mind where a drone hovers over a surrendering soldier for 10 to 15 second and then drops a bomb on them appearing to kill them.

In another a soldier is surrendering and the drone hovers again for a little bit, almost like taunting the guy, before flying into the dudes head.

 

[Blackadder1916]

Have there been any discussions surrounding drone use and the Geneva conventions?

A couple videos come to mind where a drone hovers over a surrendering soldier for 10 to 15 second and then drops a bomb on them appearing to kill them.

In another a soldier is surrendering and the drone hovers again for a little bit, almost like taunting the guy, before flying into the dudes head.

Something from the US perspective.

Ukraine Symposium - The Legal and Practical Challenges of Surrendering to Drones - Lieber Institute West Point

Using drone-facilitated surrender by Ukrainian forces needs to comply with LOAC and legal obligations arising therefrom.

lieber.westpoint.edu

Technologically Enabled Surrender Under the Law of Armed Conflict | Chicago Journal of International Law

This Article discusses the development of the modern legal consequences of surrender under the law of armed conflict and explores how technologically enabled surrender is being used in Ukraine. It concludes with an analysis of the impact of these technologies on the surrender process and...

cjil.uchicago.edu

 

[HavokFour]

Have there been any discussions surrounding drone use and the Geneva conventions?

A couple videos come to mind where a drone hovers over a surrendering soldier for 10 to 15 second and then drops a bomb on them appearing to kill them.

In another a soldier is surrendering and the drone hovers again for a little bit, almost like taunting the guy, before flying into the dudes head.

Don't see how that would be much different than trying to surrender to a fighter jet, or something more similar like an attack helicopter. Though there have been several instances now of surrendering to a drone actually working, though that seems to be more likely if it's a bomber type drone and not a one way like an FPV.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

How to take out a fiberoptic drone

 

[Kirkhill]

Need more scissors?

 

[Maxman1]

dont know who got fired, they were threatening to layoff design personnel without further orders

By February 2023 they had produced 86
February 2024 it was up to 118
February 2025 ???

Maybe have them design a 4x4 LAV to replace the TAPV, in whatever role that is supposed to be. It's been done in the past.

 

[Skysix]

Long range (1000-2000km) underwater (-40m) drones withh 1000-5000kg payload suspected in Kirch attack and feared by Vladivostok

 

[HavokFour]

Articles just coming out now. Israel seems to have quietly given Ukraine it's retired PAC-2 Patriot systems.

Israel gives Ukraine old Patriot systems - ambassador

Israeli Ambassador to Ukraine Michael Brodsky says Israel sent Ukraine Patriot air defense systems, received from the United States in the early 1990s. — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

 

[HavokFour]

RuAF can't catch a break. Also seems to be implying that this was an in person raid 400km inside Russia, waiting for more details.

Ukraine says it hit Russian MiG-31, Su-30/34 fighter jets following attack on airfield

The overnight strike targeted the Savasleyka airfield in Russia's Nizhny Novgorod region, which the Kremlin uses to launch MiG-31K jets armed with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, according to the General Staff.

kyivindependent.com

And here's the announcement from the official General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Telegram account.

Генеральний штаб ЗСУ

⚡️Уражено літаки на аеродромі Саваслейка У ніч на 9 червня підрозділи Сил спеціальних операцій ЗСУ, у взаємодії з іншими складовими Сил оборони України, завдали ураження по аеродрому “Саваслейка”, що у Нижегородській області рф. Російський агресор використовує його для ударів по території...

t.me

 

[childs56]

GDLSC needs to either market their platform overseas and get more orders. They need to redesign/design a platform with tracks, artillery turrets and maybe a 50 ton tank.

 

[KevinB]

GDLSC needs to either market their platform overseas and get more orders. They need to redesign/design a platform with tracks, artillery turrets and maybe a 50 ton tank.

GDLS already has a lot of variants and is selling Stryker's offshore.
You need to remember that GDLS-C is simply a Canadian subsidiary off the US parent.

 

[childs56]

GDLS already has a lot of variants and is selling Stryker's offshore.
You need to remember that GDLS-C is simply a Canadian subsidiary off the US parent.

But the US took manufacturing away from the Canadian plant years ago.