Why would the perimeter of a military base be in any way shape or form the responsibility of civilian law enforcement? We don’t have the resources for things that are our responsibility. If a related crime happens outside the base that connects to national security interests, ok, I could see that being an RCMP problem to investigate a criminal national security threat, but the physical security is CAF/DND’s responsibility.
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KevinB
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The outside Exterior perimeter, isn’t the base.
There needs to be an effective relationship between the CivPol and MilPol at the perimeter, or you need up with neither side taking responsibility for the area.
daftandbarmy
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Liaison with civilian police is important, of course, but there needs to be a military police component to the guard force that is part of any 'defense in depth' plan for fixed sites like air bases.
The 'Snowdrops' do that job in the UK ... just not very well, in this case, it seems
Royal Air Force Police
The RAF Police are responsible for the policing and security of all service personnel, much like their Royal Navy and British Army counterparts.
Provision of policing, counter-intelligence and specialist security support to the RAF includes:
- Front line, Response and Law Enforcement duties
- Criminal and security investigation
- Serious and Complex Criminal Investigations – a DSCU responsibility since December 2022
- Covert Operations
- Counter Intelligence Operations
- Cyber and information security
- Military working dogs
- Force protection (on deployed operations)
- Close protection of VIPs
Royal Air Force Police - Wikipedia
If someone is committing an offence outside the base, sure, absolutely. There are some offences that could fit, including conspiracies or attempts. But outside of the physically secured area that’s more an intelligence function than anything else. There’s a limit to what can realistically be expected in terms of civilian police contributing to the physical security of a base outside its perimeter. Resources won’t be proactively dedicated to that. There are very, very limited cases in which police in Canada are dedicated to proactively doing protective work. That’s basically just found in a small part of downtown Ottawa.
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Hire a bunch of ex-Gurhka's to guard the perimeter, a lot of companies do that in developing countries and works quite well. That will deal with the actual intruders. You need a more educated team to deal with the other types of threats.
Jarnhamar
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GardaWorld without the knives.
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A good article on the subject of airfield defense, IMHO...
Needless to say, airfield defense includes a range of measures beyond having a bunch of knife wielding maniacs roaming the landscape
Are you insane? They can’t do that!
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
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For several airbases, the airfields are mixed military / civilian, so no, you can't just close the gates. Think YQQ, YBG, YHU...
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YWG too
Sure, but he said ‘most’.
Obviously having bases intermixed with civilian activity such that they cannot be properly secured is a problem, but whatever. We’ll just go with it til it bites us in the ass.
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A big established airfield like YWG - and others - IMO don't need grade A troops to secure them.
For an expeditionary force that is where you need the RCAF Regiment or whatever you wanna call it.
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I mean, do they actually expect the Commissionaire to get up and actually talk to the vehicle arriving at the gate?
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What a great day for Canada, and therefore, the world.
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But I thought the game plan was to put all service bases closer to the civilian population so as to raise awareness and improve recruiting and retention?
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I think Ukraine's Operation Spiderweb might suggest that there are no airfields in Canada that don't require solid security/anti-drone protection.
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