KevinB
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Better to kill as many as we enable the Ukrainians to now, than build the Maginot Line 2.0
The War in Ukraine
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HavokFour
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So after all that they ended it early and skipped lunch and have nothing to show for it, doesn't sound like it went well at all. Now we see if Trump tries to memory hole the whole thing or actually apply some of those "severe consequences" on Russia.
Meanwhile, the country with virtually no functioning Navy is branching out into the Caspian.
Ukraine says it has bombed Russian ship carrying drone parts at Caspian port
Attack on cargo vessel more than 500 miles from frontline is show of force before Trump-Putin meeting
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I don't think the bridge is supposed to look that toasty.
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They been aiming at the engine rooms to avoid leaking to much oil.
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Little correction on my own point: Now that I got a better look at them, it was F-22 Raptors. Still ...
Shahed Drone Anti Jamming Tech selling on Aliexpress
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Shahed drone navigation brain now sells online
A critical navigation component used in Shahed-series attack drones is now openly available for purchase on a major Chinese e-commerce platform, according to Ukrainian electronic warfare specialist Serhiy Beskrestnov, widely known by his callsign “Serhiy Flesh.” Beskrestnov wrote that a...
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Folks, if we can't keep the political discussion in its spot and the military updates here, we can just lock this thread. We're dangerously close as folks seem to think they can skirt the politics rules by overflowing the dumpster out here.
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HavokFour
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Been some bolder partisan activity in Melitopol the past few weeks, this is the latest.
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The Brits believe it will take Russia an additional 4.4 years and 1,930,000 casualties on top of the current 1,060,000 they have now just to fully capture and occupy the 4 Ukrainian Oblasts they want currently.
And here's an interesting read from the Hudson Institute. A lot of the targets suggested aren't new to those that have been following the war, but there's a couple that might not have been considered by many before.
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The Brits believe it will take Russia an additional 4.4 years and 1,930,000 casualties on top of the current 1,060,000 they have now just to fully capture and occupy the 4 Ukrainian Oblasts they want currently.
And here's an interesting read from the Hudson Institute. A lot of the targets suggested aren't new to those that have been following the war, but there's a couple that might not have been considered by many before.
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About 20 Tomahawks would effectively destroy Russia's economy and war machine...
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Good analysis... and very sad at various levels too of course ...
Uh… That’s a pretty bold claim, Kev. I think it would take more than 20,000lbs of precisely placed high explosives as a couple dozen one-offs to break Russian economic and logistical resilience. Let’s be real here.
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I’m sure that if the Ukrainians took out every single rail bridge over a major/minor river along the Trans Siberian rail network on Jan 1 that Russia would be in some pretty serious trouble tout suite - would 20 Tomahawks make that happen?
I’m sure they would, but if that was a capability Ukraine realistically had I suspect we’d have seen it by now. I doubt Ukraine is shying away from some hitherto unused highly efficient war-winning deep strike strategy.
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That’s what the Tomahawks are for, lol.
Interestingly Ukraine has just revealed photos of a new ‘Flamingo’ missile that purportedly can do 3,000km with a 1,000lb warhead. We’ll see if it’s true.
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More info on this including the the only photo of one, which shows that they have at least 2.
Ukraine's long-range Flamingo cruise missile enters serial production, media reports
The domestically developed cruise missile has a reported range of 3,000 km (1,864 miles). The military has not yet publicly commented on the official technical specifications.
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Casulties mean frick all to Putin. It is in their history. The Russians lost millions just attacking Berlin in 1945.
Stalin sent their returning soldier amputees to Siberia for example to hide them.
Stalin sent their returning soldier amputees to Siberia for example to hide them.
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Then they won't be all that surprised if they don't get what they want right away - this from UK MoD (yellow highlights mine) ....
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The Flamingo, taking flight.
EDIT: According to the journalist who released the video(s) the one with blue skies is a test launch, the other is active use against targets in Russia. They're already full sending these.
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EDIT: According to the journalist who released the video(s) the one with blue skies is a test launch, the other is active use against targets in Russia. They're already full sending these.
«Фламінго» від FirePoint: ексклюзивні відео випробувань та бойових запусків крилатої ракети
Українська ракета Фламінго вже вразила цілі в Росії. Дивіться ексклюзивне відео випробувального й бойового запусків.
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Actually you can absolutely demolish the Russia gas sector with 8-10. Due to sanctions they are having a extremely tough time fixing what the Ukrainian strikes have done already.
That is their piggybank for the war -- kill it, and Russia doesn't have the ability to generate much foreign currency.
2 More for the Drone factories: While that would be able to be repaired it would really crater the drone production for several months.
4 for the Kerch Bridge (2 each side, Road and Rail): Both symbolic (severing the land bridge to Crimea), but also would cause issues with the supply of forces along the occupied regions by the Sea of Azov (Kherson, Crimea, Zaporizhzhia, and southern Donetsk, especial when combined with:
4 for the Volga-Don Canal (1 to the entry and exit locks, and 1 to each Lock 8 and Lock 9): Not only would this seriously degrade Russian forces south (think Georgia) It would also sever the Sea of Azov to Caspian Sea channel (which is a large logistics channel for supplies from Iran) and cause further issues to Russia proper.
- I would avoid targeting anything near China - which would be nice, but would involve flying over folks who may not appreciate it - and risk making the squeeze a lot more than the juice.
Now admittedly that basically creates an atmosphere of simply slowing their economy and ability to project UAS - but doesn't help with the manpower issue -- that would also require renewed support from the Coalition of the Willing for AD, C-UAS, more Rockets and Artillery ammo etc .
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