Halifax Tar
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Public service employment has grown by 31 per cent
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I think you have no choice but to contribute until you hit 35 years.
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We all have…I sailed with that guy.
Correct.
Brad Sallows
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And apparently they also are not, for some.
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And after 35, you contribute at 1% of earnings.
It's important to track it yourself, as there's no automated "This person is at 35 years combined" alert, so you risk having excess deductions taken, which require Phoenix action to refund, and are paid out without interest.
Yes Brad, I know you are disappointed that they won’t be laying off everyone this time.
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No Ninjas?
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The disappointment is that governments keep finding ways to inflate the costs of hiring, employing, and firing.Yes Brad, I know you are disappointed that they won’t be laying off everyone this time.
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Then they're doing it wrong. Whatever they have done that compels them to do more than give notice (or whatever else the absolute minimum is allowed by law), they should undo - legislation, long strikes, whatever - and proceed from there. There are more pressing uses for federal funds.
Ah yes yelling at clouds.
It’s what’s in place. ERI will minimise costs. Reductions have an upfront cost that save over time. Your tantrum won’t change that.
Maybe over time they will roll back collective agreements. Maybe not. Me and certainly you won’t be around for it though.
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Sure. Hoping governments will cut costs somewhere in order to do things like keep emerg departments open and reduce the number of OD deaths. Obviously we aren't finding enough resources for those, and various other arguably more important things. I'm just not that sympathetic to the cloud that encompasses "middle class welfare".
They are cutting things to do other things. It’s the whole point of the exercise.
You are a bit all over the map here.
Your opener was “F*. Just lay people off for F* sakes.”
My reply is that they are in fact doing it.
Then you said they were for some but not for others. Ok…that’s kind of how it works.
But then you lamented the cost of hiring employing and firing.
You don’t like that ERI is going to in fact reduce the cost of firing.
To which you went on about layoff compensation (something that exists in others fields as well) being wrong etc etc and eliminating collective agreement provisions.
Now onto a bunch of stuff about Emergency rooms and other things.
You are not being realistic thus the cloud yelling comparison.
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By which I meant, just give them notice and show them the door. No deals, no pension sweeteners, no voiding of penalties. Give them whatever notice they're entitled to and let them be usefully employed for that time, pay them severance, and let them collect whatever pension they've accrued, subject to penalties if applicable.
Which leads to a more expensive process. It’s exactly what they are hoping to minimise.
It’s also why a lot of people in that cohort that might eligible are talking about not taking it hoping that they get WFAed instead or alternate with someone who is.
It’s also why the unions are calling foul because ERI by all accounts is less than what you are proposing. Which is the normal process for the most part.
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