The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Colin Parkinson]

Yes they are. Take some disgruntled young adult who's got an infatuation with mass killings and a beef with the world. He can do a lot more damage and keep LE at bay more effectively with an AR-10 than he could we a Cooey.

I would be impressed if he had an AR-10, not exactly common.

Quite the epidemic we are having with long guns of all types

 

[Eaglelord17]

Yes they are. Take some disgruntled young adult who's got an infatuation with mass killings and a beef with the world. He can do a lot more damage and keep LE at bay more effectively with an AR-10 than he could we a Cooey.

And he could still do more damage with a F150 than either one of those. Vehicle attacks are more dangerous than firearms attacks.

 

[Cloud Cover]

And he could still do more damage with a F150 than either one of those. Vehicle attacks are more dangerous than firearms attacks.

Believe it or not, there was a move underway in British Columbia to allow local councils to ban private non commercial ownership and use of large pick up trucks from urban areas- under the guise of pedestrian and public safety.

 

[CadNav]

I would be impressed if he had an AR-10, not exactly common.

Quite the epidemic we are having with long guns of all types

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That might be for various reasons, not necessarily that they're more dangerous; it could be because handguns are more popular, because they're cheaper, or of various causal factors

 

[Quirky]

Believe it or not, there was a move underway in British Columbia to allow local councils to ban private non commercial ownership and use of large pick up trucks from urban areas- under the guise of pedestrian and public safety.

What’s considered urban in BC?

 

[Lumber]

I would be impressed if he had an AR-10, not exactly common.

Quite the epidemic we are having with long guns of all types

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Once again, my point is being conflated. I did not say that long guns, and more specifically semi auto long guns, were the main source of gun deaths in Canada. All I said, and nothing more, was that a person with a semi-auto rifle, and especially a high calibre semi-auto rifle, has the capability to do more damage/cause more deaths and resist LE better than someone with a single shot 22LR (unless Fish was referring to the Cooey 60), especially if they are novice shooter.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

That might be for various reasons, not necessarily that they're more dangerous; it could be because handguns are more popular, because they're cheaper, or of various causal factors

Handguns are generally smuggled in and used by real criminals in nefarious circumstances

 

[Eaglelord17]

That might be for various reasons, not necessarily that they're more dangerous; it could be because handguns are more popular, because they're cheaper, or of various causal factors

It is because criminals mainly use handguns (primarily smuggled from the States) to commit crimes. They are used because they are easy to conceal, walking around with a long gun gets noticed very quickly.

Most shotgun/rifle homicides are generally domestics which if they didn’t have that firearm still likely would be done by knife, hammer, etc.

Believe it or not, there was a move underway in British Columbia to allow local councils to ban private non commercial ownership and use of large pick up trucks from urban areas- under the guise of pedestrian and public safety.

And environmental controls. Remember a prison is theoretically the safest place around.

 

[Furniture]

Believe it or not, there was a move underway in British Columbia to allow local councils to ban private non commercial ownership and use of large pick up trucks from urban areas- under the guise of pedestrian and public safety.

There is a continuously simmering argument from the urbanites to ban large SUVs and trucks. Essentially the downtown/uptown-set don't want us rural peasants on their hallowed ground with our rural vehicles.*

I think far more could be done to prevent pedestrian deaths if we actually educated people about the dangers of walking into traffic unaware, and enforced penalties for things like jay walking. The same applies to cyclists, well more than half of the issues I have seen with both groups is entitled people not respecting the laws of physics or the other road/sidewalk users around them.

*This ties into the main topic, because it comes down to people who don't use/understand a thing seeking to limit other people's ability to own/use the thing.

 

[Cloud Cover]

What’s considered urban in BC?

In the 2 cases I’m thinking of - Victoria and Salmon Arm - that’s a range if between 30,000 and however many are in Victoria.

 

[mariomike]

Essentially the downtown/uptown-set don't want us rural peasants on their hallowed ground with our rural vehicles.*

*This ties into the main topic, because it comes down to people who don't use/understand a thing seeking to limit other people's ability to own/use the thing.

* ok

Opinions vary on "rural".

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[Cloud Cover]

No gun rack in that monster.

I’m about as rural as you can get. We have a RAV Hybrid, prohibited guns, a lesbian in the family, 3 bibles and lots of solar panels. (And actual farm trucks, none of which are jacked or even large).

 

[Furniture]

* ok

Opinions vary on "rural".

You kinda proved my point...

The guy is a douche who imagines the urban elite exist despite the depredations of the unwashed masses outside the urban centre. He is the very cancer I described in my quoted post.

 

[Cloud Cover]

You kinda proved my point...

The guy is a douche who imagines the urban elite exist despite the depredations of the unwashed masses outside the urban centre. He is the very cancer I described in my quoted post.

Isn’t that the kind of truck usually parked in long lines at the shacks?

 

[Brad Sallows]

No gun rack in that monster.

I’m about as rural as you can get. We have a RAV Hybrid, prohibited guns, a lesbian in the family, 3 bibles and lots of solar panels. (And actual farm trucks, none of which are jacked or even large).

When I hear "farm truck", I picture something from the 1950s...

 

[mariomike]

The guy is a douche who imagines the urban elite exist despite the depredations of the unwashed masses outside the urban centre. He is the very cancer I described in my quoted post.

You described yourself as "rural".

us rural peasants

I'm not rural. Although we dont have sidewalks.

The guy is a douche

The guy got a lot of angry comments,

 

[Furniture]

You described yourself as "rural".

I think its more accurate to describe me as someone who would b3 described as "rural" by the typical activist, such as the kne you posted.

I live in downtown Ottawa, against my best judgement.

As for the second video from the same activist...

He's cherry-picking extreme examples to make his silly argument seem more rational.

If you were as much of a believer in his style of city as youd like to present here, you'd be demanding sidewalks and low-rise apartments in your little "village". Except we all know you're inordinatly proud of the lack of sidewalks and low-rise development in your little boomer haven.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Right now, Gary and Nathalie and the rest of Public Safety are wargaming a nuclear option to ensure this key promise in the Liberal campaign is delivered upon. Thia is a no-fail task.

No one, and I mean no one should be looking for a silver lining in this.

I am hearing rumblings thay Poly and the LPC are in a bit of panic over this now. It seems the resistance from PDs and Prov Govs is meaning something.

Perhaps there is hope for our PDs yet.

Carney has an off ramp here.

Once again, my point is being conflated. I did not say that long guns, and more specifically semi auto long guns, were the main source of gun deaths in Canada. All I said, and nothing more, was that a person with a semi-auto rifle, and especially a high calibre semi-auto rifle, has the capability to do more damage/cause more deaths and resist LE better than someone with a single shot 22LR (unless Fish was referring to the Cooey 60), especially if they are novice shooter.

You lose people in your statement when you cant get the technical details right. Much like people need long winded pontifications ad nauseum on this site to flex their English degree.

AR10s... If I had one ain't no one taking that.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Yes they are. Take some disgruntled young adult who's got an infatuation with mass killings and a beef with the world. He can do a lot more damage and keep LE at bay more effectively with an AR-10 than he could we a Cooey.

What about a 300 Winchester magnum with a 16 power scope, and pump action shotgun. Both hunting platforms

 

[Lumber]

I am hearing rumblings thay Poly and the LPC are in a bit of panic over this now. It seems the resistance from PDs and Prov Govs is meaning something.

Perhaps there is hope for our PDs yet.

Carney has an off ramp here.



You lose people in your statement when you cant get the technical details right. Much like people need long winded pontifications ad nauseum on this site to flex their English degree.

AR10s... If I had one ain't no one taking that.

And just what technical details did I get wrong?