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Never been to a political rally / protest / counter-protest .Even less inclined after reading this,
PPE is never a bad idea.
Rick Hanson says the #1 threat to America in 2026 is "Liberals with guns."
A Deeply Fractured US
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Never been to a political rally / protest / counter-protest .Even less inclined after reading this,
PPE is never a bad idea.
Rick Hanson says the #1 threat to America in 2026 is "Liberals with guns."
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America is beyond fixing, and beyond redemption.
Oldgateboatdriver
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Yep! While Trump muses about Canada becoming the 51st state, he is blind to the much greater probability of the US breaking up into five or six separate nations.
America is cruising faster and faster towards remember the actual reason they have a second amendment. An unsurprising number of purported second amendment absolutists who would have taken to the streets armed if a fed under a Democrat administration killed a concealed carry U.S. citizen working as a VA nurse have done a rapid pivot to “tread on me harder, daddy”. Turns out a lot of the past quarter century’s paranoid talk about “the feds” is actually not at all contingent on the said feds’ behaviour, but rather who it’s carried out against.
There are a lot of armed liberals in America, and the discussion of arming themselves is becoming more frequent and open.
Dangerous times.
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Nailed it.
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PrairieFella
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Sounds like something in our interest. Working with the Republics of New York, California and Minnesota for example sounds much more amenable.
I think this frame grab is developing into one of those “iconic photos of our times”.
By this point the officer holding the gun had watched his colleague remove the victim’s gun from his holster and move away with it. This photo was just as he was beginning to shoot.
With the slowed down versions the best count I’ve got is ten shots. Not sure how many officers fired. There’s a distinct possibility based on some analysis I’ve seen that the first shot was an ND of the victim’s own gun by the officer who had removed it from the holster and was walking away. Too bad the feds abandoned the perimeter and collapsed the crime scene before state investigators could thoroughly examine it.
By this point the officer holding the gun had watched his colleague remove the victim’s gun from his holster and move away with it. This photo was just as he was beginning to shoot.
With the slowed down versions the best count I’ve got is ten shots. Not sure how many officers fired. There’s a distinct possibility based on some analysis I’ve seen that the first shot was an ND of the victim’s own gun by the officer who had removed it from the holster and was walking away. Too bad the feds abandoned the perimeter and collapsed the crime scene before state investigators could thoroughly examine it.
PrairieFella
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Similar photos have caused great upheaval in the States in the past.
Exactly one that came to mind for me.
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But the end of the summer. Certainly before mid term elections there will be a national fracture. There’s no way they are going to peacefully co-exist anymore.
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From 2021. I wonder how much sentiment has changed since then:
47% of West Coast Dems, 66% of Southern Republicans Want to Secede
Support for secession has been rising dramatically among Republicans in the South, jumping 16 percent in only five months.
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It's been interesting watching some MAGA/2A people online say that it's okay to shoot him for simply bringing a firearm to a protest and resisting arrest despite never touching said firearm.
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Or it’s possible that much of this collective outrage is being manufactured, driven less by facts on the ground and more by sustained media framing designed to provoke it. ICE officers, for the most part, are enforcing laws that already exist, addressing an immigration system that many would argue has deteriorated over the past two decades due to Democratic policy choices. ICE operates nationwide, and while individual incidents absolutely deserve scrutiny, taken as a whole there are not widespread patterns of abuse.
What is widespread is the amplification of every negative encounter, presented in a way that suggests systemic misconduct rather than isolated failures. The result is a public narrative that portrays ICE as routinely victimizing Americans, which in turn fuels harassment of agents regardless of whether they are acting improperly or simply carrying out lawful duties. Each confrontation then becomes fresh material to further inflame outrage.
This creates the impression that opposition to ICE is growing broadly and even bipartisan, but that perception is largely illusory. Many American conservatives see this as a deliberate effort to delegitimize the president, DHS, and ICE itself in order to obstruct immigration enforcement altogether. From a Canadian media environment that largely mirrors U.S. progressive framing, that dynamic may be difficult to recognize, but it doesn’t make it any less real.
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FTFY. These ICE guys are not officers. Officers are trained and disciplined to uphold the law. These guys don’t do that.
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One of the more intelligent posts I've seen in a long time on this subject.
Random thought. What are the implications in the midterms if suddenly a bunch of people who put a lot of weight into firearms rights begin to have a shifted perception of whether the Republicans can actually be relied upon there?
The fact that he was being facetious apparently went right over your head. Based on his history in this thread I’m quite confident that was his best sarcastic take on what a skilled licking of the boot would look like. And it was, admittedly, quite good. I wouldn’t be surprised to see those words parroted by those with a sudden “tread on me” fetish.
The fact that he was being facetious apparently went right over your head. Based on his history in this thread I’m quite confident that was his best sarcastic take on what a skilled licking of the boot would look like. And it was, admittedly, quite good. I wouldn’t be surprised to see those words parroted by those with a sudden “tread on me” fetish.
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I may be mistaken but it seemed to me that when of the ICE agents tried to pistol whip the victim. Could that have resulted in a discharge?
I believe it was CBP, not ICE. I’m not sure, I don’t have the video immediately at hand, but I don’t remember seeing that nor others pointing it out.
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